m&mjust curious why existing admin actions are duplicated
KevI'm not sure why we need another way of setting the subject.
stpeterI should probably fix it up before we publish it, and add more use cases -- I was in a hurry at the time, working on it while commuting and such
KevOr the other duplications.
Tobiasi haven't read it yet etiher
MattJI think it's a good start, I have a small wishlist though (that may or may not be addressed in this spec)
m&mI've no objections to publishing
KevI'm a little uneasy about duplicating the functions without understanding the reason.
KevBut I've not read it properly to see if that's explained.
KevI'll read it over the next couple of days.
KevNo-one opposing right now, right?
Tobiasi'm not...will read it soonish
m&mnot now, possibly not ever
Kevm&m: I'm so very tempted to make a "That's what she said" comment here.
stpeterthe spec doesn't explain why we might want to use ad-hoc commands for existing functions, although one could argue that it would have been a good idea to do that from the start (and wouldn't require special-purpose code), but I agree that these don't deserve to be front-and-center, perhaps in an appendix
KevBut I won't.
m&mKev: you need another holiday (-:
m&mKev: I hear November 5th should not be forgot
ralphmalthough I do wonder if we are to mess with this, maybe there are some other things more pressing, re muc
Kevm&m: Very good.
Kevralphm: If they were pressing, someone would have worked on them :)
ralphmKev: well yeah, that's a good point I suppose
m&mralphm: we did got through a fairly thorough editorial revision not too long ago
m&mthinks he needs another holiday
Kev3) Date of next meeting.
KevNext Wed's not good for me.
stpeterI'll be offline next Wednesday, methinks
ralphmm&m: I rather meant an actual overhaul, that probably no-one actually wants. never mind.
Kevm&m: If that's a fortnight today, yes.
ralphmm&m: I just happened to find this (again): https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=27687
m&mKev: no, it's two weeks
m&mis a little punchy today
stpeternotes that m&m and I still need to clean up the ad-hoc commands spec a bit
m&myeah, I've got a list sitting next to me
m&mor I thought ...
stpeterm&m: we'll talk :)
stpeterm&m: but when you're less punchy
stpeterno AOB from me
stpeterstill didn't get to XHTML-IM, maybe tonight :)
m&mnone from me
KevFab. I still owe minutes for last week, I know.
m&mKev: do you need someone to take minutes for you?
KevThe end of madness is in sight, hopefully I'll be more on-the-ball when we've got this release shipped.
ZashMattJ still owes an updated XEP-0313 ...
Kevm&m: I can do them, but thanks.
KevI've just been on site the last few days and haven't had a chance to think.
stpeterand don't forget http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Board_and_Council_Elections_2012 -- I'm still recruiting ;-)
Board and Council Elections 2012 - XMPP Wiki
KevNumber of Council applicants has doubled since I last looked, w00t.
KevAnyway. I think we're largely done here aren't we?
Kevbangs the gavel
MattJZash, have been working on 313 this morning
Kevstpeter: Thanks for doing the GSoC invoice too.
stpeterKev: sure thing!
stpeterKev: do we need to write a final GSoC blog post, perhaps?
KevYes. I asked the students to send me links to closing posts of their own, but none did.
KevSo I guess we should write one without.
stpeternot today, though
m&mMattJ/Kev: is there an update to 297 pending also>
Kevm&m: I vaguely recall I'm supposed to be reading through what's there and seeing if I agree before we request LC.
MattJm&m, you need to update carbons for the new format
m&myeah, I know
MattJralphm, using Google? ;)
MattJIf you can get them to fix that, I would really love you
ralphmMattJ: what happened
MattJHave to ask him, but evidently it wasn't fixed
ralphmI mean, there must be a way for us, the xsf, to get the message across to them that their implementation is broken in this respect
ralphmthe pdf I linked to above (from freedesktop.org) even mentions that they seem to expect an unavailable presence being sent before a nick change