Tobias: objections to http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/xml-media-element.html ?
Kanchil
Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/xml-media-element.html:
XEP-xxxx: Data Forms XML Element
m&m
wouldn't we have to add that to every XEP, though?
m&m
I don't think it's worth calling out any more here than we've done in other places.
Kev
m&m: How many other XEPs claim to allow you to include arbitrary XML as a child?
m&m
pubsub
m&m
ok, at least one (-:
Kev
This specifically calls out that you can use it for shipping XMPP logs, and it doesn't allow that.
Kev
Assuming by 'logs' we mean 'telemetry'.
Kev
But anyway, I'm not objecting to this.
Kev
And I think Tobias has wandered off again.
Tobias
what?
Tobias
ah..one sec
ralphm
I don't particularly like that you can have more than one child of wrapper
ralphm
also not quite sure if you actually need a wrapper
Kev
ralphm: Yes, I wondered that, but I think you do.
m&m
I think the wrapper helps
ralphm
iff you need one, it should only have one child element
Kev
That is - you need to know "This is a blob of XML that is an answer to this field".
Kev
Rather than "This is some field type that you don't understand".
ralphm
otherwise it is more than one xml blob
ralphm
(possibly)
Kev
Yes, although whether that matters is another issue.
Kev
Do you want to block it on that basis, or just comment onlist?
ralphm
I said already I have no objections to it being published
ralphm
I am not sure I like the way it works
Tobias
no objections to it from my side
Kev
You did - I was checking you hadn't changed your mind :)
Kev
OK.
Kev
3) Date of next meeting.
ralphm
I'll be in SF/Portland the coming two weeks
Kev
Next Wednesday looks OK for me, unless I get called to be onsite again with short notice.
stpeterglances at http://wiki.xmpp.org:12480/web/Board_and_Council_Elections_2012
Kanchil
stpeter: http://wiki.xmpp.org:12480/web/Board_and_Council_Elections_2012:
Board and Council Elections 2012 - XMPP Wiki
Tobias
that wiki should be available on port 80, btw
stpeter
ah, good
ralphm
Tobias: interestingly, it is!
Kev
We can have one last meeting on the 30th then, I guess.
Tobias
ralphm, got an url?
stpeter
WFM
ralphm
Tobias: just chop off the port part
Kev
Without anaesthetic? :o
m&m
WFM
Tobias
ralphm, ahh..thx...
ralphm
Tobias: someone should fix the config that it doesn't expose that additional weird port
Tobias
indeed
ralphm
Also, Cool URLs Don't Change!
Kev
Someone needs to finish the porting of athena from lighttpd to nginx.
stpeter
I have one AOB.... XEP-0071 and how to come to agreement on structured elements vs. stylistic presentation, but I suppose I'll just post to the list about that
Kev
I started and then got distracted, as so often happens.
ralphm
I wish to stamp that on the head of everyone involved the slightest in anything related to publishing web pages
Kev
stpeter: I think at this stage the answer is "We don't substantially change the XEP".
Kev
But yes, that discussion can happen on-list.
Kev
OK, so next meeting 30th October, just before we get kicked out.
m&m
/nod
ralphm
To be more blunt. I'm a solid -1 on anything adding stuff
ralphm
like rdfa
Kev
Any other any other business?
stpeter
not adding anything, just softening some of the language, but I'll post to the list :)
m&m
where are we on xep-0297 ?
Kev
Was I supposed to be giving that a read-through before we ask for an LC?
m&m
yes (-:
Kev
OK.
Kev
Have added to my TODO.
m&m
I need to look at the list again … there might have been some comments that need addressing
Kev
Any other any other business?
m&m
none from me
ralphm
-
Tobias
none here
Kev
OK.
Kev
I think we're done then.
Kev
Thanks all.
Kevbangs the gavel.
ralphm
yay
ralphm
thanks all
m&m
w00t
Tobias
thanks
Tobias
bbl
stpeter
bbiaf
m&mwonders in search of caffeine
ralphm
flash!
stpeterwonders why m&m wonders instead of wanders
ralphm
hehe
Tobiashas left
m&m
because too much caffeine is a bad thing, and I've had at least 300mLs so far this morning
m&m
well, 300mLs of coffee
m&m
and 300mLs of green tea
ralphm
m&m: the SI designation for liter is lowercase l.
ralphm
and no -s
m&m
graze
m&m
I'm a silly American, anyway
ralphm
well, /you/ could still do the proper thing
ralphm
it is a wonder (haha see above) you even know about them
m&m
in the end, I'm filled up my 150ml cup with more coffee
ralphm
(them being the SI units)
m&m
I said silly, not ignorant
m&m
d-:
MattJhas joined
ralphm
m&m: I'm sorry, you're in the middle of hahaland
m&m
oh yesh
ralphm
too bad you won't be in porland
MattJgrumbles at timezones
ralphm
MattJ: seriously?
m&m
I know, but there's only so much travel I can get away with before the family complains
ralphm
m&m: right
MattJ
ralphm, seriously :P
ralphm
MattJ: coming weeks will be interesting for you
MattJ
Quite
m&m
oh crap … that's right
ralphm
The council meeting of the 30th will be in between the daylight switch of europe and the states
m&m
I'll be traveling to Atlanta on the next change in the US
MattJ
Lovely
m&m
this is why we should abolish DST
ralphm
I think we didn't pick I time. I suggest 16:00 UTC
m&m
I think that works for me
MattJ
Me too
Kev
Yes.
stpeter
ok, I sent a message to the standards@ list about structure vs. style, we'll see what comes of it