XMPP Council - 2013-02-06

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  24. stpeter howdy
  25. Kev Evening.
  26. Tobias hi
  27. Kev I've poked Ralph.
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  29. Kev And he has arrived!
  30. ralphm Hi!
  31. Kev Hi Ralph.
  32. Kev So.
  33. Kev Agenda-wise, we've got bidi.
  34. Kev I thought the RTT guys said they were going to submit, but I've not seen them do so.
  35. stpeter I think XEP-0152 is ready for a Last Call, too
  36. fippo bidi on short-notice
  37. Kev And HanzZ's roster stuff is hanging around, but I don't think he's actually submitted yet?
  38. fippo kev: can you poke dave?
  39. Tobias i'll try to have the XEP-0012 surrounding changes till next week
  40. Kev It's probably within my power, yes.
  41. stpeter Tobias: great
  42. Kev stpeter: You're mentioning this now for the first time, right? I've not missed it on the list.
  43. stpeter I've received a patch from Jef LaGrange about file info sharing, too, need to apply that
  44. Kev So.
  45. Kev 1) Roll call.
  46. Kev I'm here!
  47. ralphm yeah
  48. stpeter see http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2013-January/027030.html
  49. stpeter but we can wait until the next meeting, no huge hurry given that it went 4+ years between updates ;-)
  50. Tobias here 2
  51. Kev m&m: You here?
  52. Kev I'll take that as a 'no'.
  53. stpeter m&m is AFK
  54. Kev stpeter: Ah, I didn't read that as an LC request.
  55. stpeter Kev: it wasn't
  56. stpeter Kev: next meeting is fine
  57. Kev OK.
  58. Kev 2) LC on Bidi.
  59. ralphm +1
  60. Kev I'm happy to LC it.
  61. ralphm I'd comment that I expected a response exchange when requesting bidi
  62. stpeter seems like a fine idea -- fippo and I talked in Brussels about pushing dialback to Draft, too
  63. Tobias +1 on LC
  64. Kev Cool.
  65. fippo ralphm: we decided that was unnecessary... i'll see if i can find the mail in the xmpp@ archives
  66. ralphm fippo: while it may a no-op, it appears to me that enabling something in xmpp is typically a request-response exchange
  67. ralphm fippo: I'd like to keep things consistent
  68. Kev ralphm: It usually is, but that's actually a bad thing in many cases (as it forces round trips and those are baaad).
  69. ralphm Kev: I don't see why it couldn't be pipelined anyway
  70. Kev Right.
  71. Kev OK, so.
  72. Kev 3) Date of next meeting.
  73. Kev Next week's going to be really rough for me to try and have a meeting.
  74. Kev Week after?
  75. Tobias wfm
  76. stpeter week after works for me
  77. Kev ralphm?
  78. ralphm P2w is fine by me
  79. Kev And
  80. Kev 4) Any other business?
  81. ralphm Thanks everyone for another great FOSDEM and Summit
  82. stpeter indeed!
  83. Kev Yes, thanks all, especially those arranging it.
  84. stpeter also please add your notes to http://wiki.xmpp.org:12480/web/FOSDEM_Checklist
  85. Kanchil stpeter: http://wiki.xmpp.org:12480/web/FOSDEM_Checklist: FOSDEM Checklist - XMPP Wiki
  86. Kev stpeter: I did!
  87. stpeter so that we can make it better next time
  88. stpeter Kev: thanks much :)
  89. fippo ralphm: will poke dave if he remembers the rationale for not making it request-response, can't find it atm
  90. ralphm fippo: ok, cool
  91. stpeter Tobias: when I am a bit more settled I might ping you about iq:last and all that -- I want to make sure we all understand the changes that need to be made :-)
  92. Tobias stpeter, okidoki :)
  93. stpeter slept for 11 hours and is now rested up from the trip to Brussels
  94. ralphm woah
  95. stpeter 11 hours last night, that is
  96. ralphm I should try that, too
  97. stpeter it was quite welcome :-)
  98. ralphm I can imagine
  99. stpeter wanders off briefly for tea
  100. ralphm I think we're still in session
  101. Kev Sorry.
  102. Kev We're done.
  103. Kev I guess that bit was important.
  104. Kev Thanks all :)
  105. Kev bangs the gavel.
  106. ralphm Woot
  107. ralphm 15min is not bad at all
  108. stpeter heh
  109. stpeter updates the calendar
  110. Kev Thanks.
  111. stpeter which, clearly, I neglected to do last time :(
  112. ralphm stpeter: I'd be tempted to make it a repeating event
  113. ralphm even if we sometimes decide to skip
  114. stpeter possible, yeah
  115. stpeter done for the 20th, anyway
  116. ralphm I might be spoiled by google calendar
  117. stpeter :)
  118. ralphm which even allows for attaching a hangout to meetings like this
  119. ralphm we use that at Mochi for our engineering meetings
  120. ralphm (not that I'm suggesting this for regular council meetings)
  121. m&m arrrggh!
  122. m&m I didn't have this in my calendar, so I had another meeting instead
  123. stpeter m&m: my fault about the calendar
  124. m&m so, +1 on LC for 288
  125. m&m belatedly
  126. stpeter better late than never ;-)
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  129. ralphm m&m: :-/
  130. m&m ralphm: if my phone doesn't remind me, the meeting doesn't exist (-:
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  132. Tobias that awfully sounds like philosoraptor
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