XMPP Council - 2013-02-06

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16:04:36 stpeter howdy
16:04:41 Kev Evening.
16:04:43 Tobias hi
16:05:04 Kev I've poked Ralph.
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16:05:09 Kev And he has arrived!
16:05:15 ralphm Hi!
16:05:49 Kev Hi Ralph.
16:05:51 Kev So.
16:05:57 Kev Agenda-wise, we've got bidi.
16:06:08 Kev I thought the RTT guys said they were going to submit, but I've not seen them do so.
16:06:14 stpeter I think XEP-0152 is ready for a Last Call, too
16:06:24 fippo bidi on short-notice
16:06:24 Kev And HanzZ's roster stuff is hanging around, but I don't think he's actually submitted yet?
16:06:30 fippo kev: can you poke dave?
16:06:43 Tobias i'll try to have the XEP-0012 surrounding changes till next week
16:06:50 Kev It's probably within my power, yes.
16:07:00 stpeter Tobias: great
16:07:43 Kev stpeter: You're mentioning this now for the first time, right? I've not missed it on the list.
16:08:03 stpeter I've received a patch from Jef LaGrange about file info sharing, too, need to apply that
16:08:12 Kev So.
16:08:14 Kev 1) Roll call.
16:08:18 Kev I'm here!
16:08:27 ralphm yeah
16:08:34 stpeter see http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2013-January/027030.html
16:09:04 stpeter but we can wait until the next meeting, no huge hurry given that it went 4+ years between updates ;-)
16:09:07 Tobias here 2
16:09:15 Kev m&m: You here?
16:09:39 Kev I'll take that as a 'no'.
16:09:44 stpeter m&m is AFK
16:09:48 Kev stpeter: Ah, I didn't read that as an LC request.
16:09:54 stpeter Kev: it wasn't
16:09:58 stpeter Kev: next meeting is fine
16:10:03 Kev OK.
16:10:09 Kev 2) LC on Bidi.
16:10:17 ralphm +1
16:10:19 Kev I'm happy to LC it.
16:10:37 ralphm I'd comment that I expected a response exchange when requesting bidi
16:10:53 stpeter seems like a fine idea -- fippo and I talked in Brussels about pushing dialback to Draft, too
16:11:39 Tobias +1 on LC
16:11:58 Kev Cool.
16:11:59 fippo ralphm: we decided that was unnecessary... i'll see if i can find the mail in the xmpp@ archives
16:12:34 ralphm fippo: while it may a no-op, it appears to me that enabling something in xmpp is typically a request-response exchange
16:12:53 ralphm fippo: I'd like to keep things consistent
16:12:58 Kev ralphm: It usually is, but that's actually a bad thing in many cases (as it forces round trips and those are baaad).
16:13:24 ralphm Kev: I don't see why it couldn't be pipelined anyway
16:13:37 Kev Right.
16:13:56 Kev OK, so.
16:13:59 Kev 3) Date of next meeting.
16:14:10 Kev Next week's going to be really rough for me to try and have a meeting.
16:14:12 Kev Week after?
16:14:40 Tobias wfm
16:14:41 stpeter week after works for me
16:14:52 Kev ralphm?
16:15:19 ralphm P2w is fine by me
16:15:34 Kev And
16:15:37 Kev 4) Any other business?
16:15:51 ralphm Thanks everyone for another great FOSDEM and Summit
16:15:59 stpeter indeed!
16:16:03 Kev Yes, thanks all, especially those arranging it.
16:16:21 stpeter also please add your notes to http://wiki.xmpp.org:12480/web/FOSDEM_Checklist
16:16:23 Kanchil stpeter: http://wiki.xmpp.org:12480/web/FOSDEM_Checklist: FOSDEM Checklist - XMPP Wiki
16:16:26 Kev stpeter: I did!
16:16:28 stpeter so that we can make it better next time
16:16:33 stpeter Kev: thanks much :)
16:16:39 fippo ralphm: will poke dave if he remembers the rationale for not making it request-response, can't find it atm
16:16:50 ralphm fippo: ok, cool
16:17:17 stpeter Tobias: when I am a bit more settled I might ping you about iq:last and all that -- I want to make sure we all understand the changes that need to be made :-)
16:17:38 Tobias stpeter, okidoki :)
16:17:51 stpeter slept for 11 hours and is now rested up from the trip to Brussels
16:17:57 ralphm woah
16:18:07 stpeter 11 hours last night, that is
16:18:14 ralphm I should try that, too
16:18:23 stpeter it was quite welcome :-)
16:18:30 ralphm I can imagine
16:18:32 stpeter wanders off briefly for tea
16:18:55 ralphm I think we're still in session
16:19:23 Kev Sorry.
16:19:29 Kev We're done.
16:19:36 Kev I guess that bit was important.
16:19:38 Kev Thanks all :)
16:19:41 Kev bangs the gavel.
16:19:45 ralphm Woot
16:19:54 ralphm 15min is not bad at all
16:23:39 stpeter heh
16:23:42 stpeter updates the calendar
16:23:50 Kev Thanks.
16:24:23 stpeter which, clearly, I neglected to do last time :(
16:25:02 ralphm stpeter: I'd be tempted to make it a repeating event
16:25:10 ralphm even if we sometimes decide to skip
16:25:31 stpeter possible, yeah
16:26:06 stpeter done for the 20th, anyway
16:26:35 ralphm I might be spoiled by google calendar
16:26:39 stpeter :)
16:26:59 ralphm which even allows for attaching a hangout to meetings like this
16:27:18 ralphm we use that at Mochi for our engineering meetings
16:27:44 ralphm (not that I'm suggesting this for regular council meetings)
16:49:29 m&m arrrggh!
16:49:53 m&m I didn't have this in my calendar, so I had another meeting instead
16:50:03 stpeter m&m: my fault about the calendar
16:50:21 m&m so, +1 on LC for 288
16:50:26 m&m belatedly
16:52:39 stpeter better late than never ;-)
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19:09:31 ralphm m&m: :-/
19:32:35 m&m ralphm: if my phone doesn't remind me, the meeting doesn't exist (-:
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19:34:10 Tobias that awfully sounds like philosoraptor
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