XMPP Council - 2013-02-06

  1. stpeter


  2. Kev


  3. Tobias


  4. Kev

    I've poked Ralph.

  5. Kev

    And he has arrived!

  6. ralphm


  7. Kev

    Hi Ralph.

  8. Kev


  9. Kev

    Agenda-wise, we've got bidi.

  10. Kev

    I thought the RTT guys said they were going to submit, but I've not seen them do so.

  11. stpeter

    I think XEP-0152 is ready for a Last Call, too

  12. fippo

    bidi on short-notice

  13. Kev

    And HanzZ's roster stuff is hanging around, but I don't think he's actually submitted yet?

  14. fippo

    kev: can you poke dave?

  15. Tobias

    i'll try to have the XEP-0012 surrounding changes till next week

  16. Kev

    It's probably within my power, yes.

  17. stpeter

    Tobias: great

  18. Kev

    stpeter: You're mentioning this now for the first time, right? I've not missed it on the list.

  19. stpeter

    I've received a patch from Jef LaGrange about file info sharing, too, need to apply that

  20. Kev


  21. Kev

    1) Roll call.

  22. Kev

    I'm here!

  23. ralphm


  24. stpeter

    see http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2013-January/027030.html

  25. stpeter

    but we can wait until the next meeting, no huge hurry given that it went 4+ years between updates ;-)

  26. Tobias

    here 2

  27. Kev

    m&m: You here?

  28. Kev

    I'll take that as a 'no'.

  29. stpeter

    m&m is AFK

  30. Kev

    stpeter: Ah, I didn't read that as an LC request.

  31. stpeter

    Kev: it wasn't

  32. stpeter

    Kev: next meeting is fine

  33. Kev


  34. Kev

    2) LC on Bidi.

  35. ralphm


  36. Kev

    I'm happy to LC it.

  37. ralphm

    I'd comment that I expected a response exchange when requesting bidi

  38. stpeter

    seems like a fine idea -- fippo and I talked in Brussels about pushing dialback to Draft, too

  39. Tobias

    +1 on LC

  40. Kev


  41. fippo

    ralphm: we decided that was unnecessary... i'll see if i can find the mail in the xmpp@ archives

  42. ralphm

    fippo: while it may a no-op, it appears to me that enabling something in xmpp is typically a request-response exchange

  43. ralphm

    fippo: I'd like to keep things consistent

  44. Kev

    ralphm: It usually is, but that's actually a bad thing in many cases (as it forces round trips and those are baaad).

  45. ralphm

    Kev: I don't see why it couldn't be pipelined anyway

  46. Kev


  47. Kev

    OK, so.

  48. Kev

    3) Date of next meeting.

  49. Kev

    Next week's going to be really rough for me to try and have a meeting.

  50. Kev

    Week after?

  51. Tobias


  52. stpeter

    week after works for me

  53. Kev


  54. ralphm

    P2w is fine by me

  55. Kev


  56. Kev

    4) Any other business?

  57. ralphm

    Thanks everyone for another great FOSDEM and Summit

  58. stpeter


  59. Kev

    Yes, thanks all, especially those arranging it.

  60. stpeter

    also please add your notes to http://wiki.xmpp.org:12480/web/FOSDEM_Checklist

  61. Kanchil

    stpeter: http://wiki.xmpp.org:12480/web/FOSDEM_Checklist: FOSDEM Checklist - XMPP Wiki

  62. Kev

    stpeter: I did!

  63. stpeter

    so that we can make it better next time

  64. stpeter

    Kev: thanks much :)

  65. fippo

    ralphm: will poke dave if he remembers the rationale for not making it request-response, can't find it atm

  66. ralphm

    fippo: ok, cool

  67. stpeter

    Tobias: when I am a bit more settled I might ping you about iq:last and all that -- I want to make sure we all understand the changes that need to be made :-)

  68. Tobias

    stpeter, okidoki :)

  69. stpeter slept for 11 hours and is now rested up from the trip to Brussels

  70. ralphm


  71. stpeter

    11 hours last night, that is

  72. ralphm

    I should try that, too

  73. stpeter

    it was quite welcome :-)

  74. ralphm

    I can imagine

  75. stpeter wanders off briefly for tea

  76. ralphm

    I think we're still in session

  77. Kev


  78. Kev

    We're done.

  79. Kev

    I guess that bit was important.

  80. Kev

    Thanks all :)

  81. Kev bangs the gavel.

  82. ralphm


  83. ralphm

    15min is not bad at all

  84. stpeter


  85. stpeter updates the calendar

  86. Kev


  87. stpeter

    which, clearly, I neglected to do last time :(

  88. ralphm

    stpeter: I'd be tempted to make it a repeating event

  89. ralphm

    even if we sometimes decide to skip

  90. stpeter

    possible, yeah

  91. stpeter

    done for the 20th, anyway

  92. ralphm

    I might be spoiled by google calendar

  93. stpeter


  94. ralphm

    which even allows for attaching a hangout to meetings like this

  95. ralphm

    we use that at Mochi for our engineering meetings

  96. ralphm

    (not that I'm suggesting this for regular council meetings)

  97. m&m


  98. m&m

    I didn't have this in my calendar, so I had another meeting instead

  99. stpeter

    m&m: my fault about the calendar

  100. m&m

    so, +1 on LC for 288

  101. m&m


  102. stpeter

    better late than never ;-)

  103. ralphm

    m&m: :-/

  104. m&m

    ralphm: if my phone doesn't remind me, the meeting doesn't exist (-:

  105. Tobias

    that awfully sounds like philosoraptor