XMPP Council - 2013-02-06

howdy

Evening.

hi

I've poked Ralph.

And he has arrived!

Hi!

Hi Ralph.

So.

Agenda-wise, we've got bidi.

I thought the RTT guys said they were going to submit, but I've not seen them do so.

I think XEP-0152 is ready for a Last Call, too

bidi on short-notice

And HanzZ's roster stuff is hanging around, but I don't think he's actually submitted yet?

kev: can you poke dave?

i'll try to have the XEP-0012 surrounding changes till next week

It's probably within my power, yes.

Tobias: great

stpeter: You're mentioning this now for the first time, right? I've not missed it on the list.

I've received a patch from Jef LaGrange about file info sharing, too, need to apply that

So.

1) Roll call.

I'm here!

yeah

see http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2013-January/027030.html

but we can wait until the next meeting, no huge hurry given that it went 4+ years between updates ;-)

here 2

m&m: You here?

I'll take that as a 'no'.

m&m is AFK

stpeter: Ah, I didn't read that as an LC request.

Kev: it wasn't

Kev: next meeting is fine

OK.

2) LC on Bidi.

+1

I'm happy to LC it.

I'd comment that I expected a response exchange when requesting bidi

seems like a fine idea -- fippo and I talked in Brussels about pushing dialback to Draft, too

+1 on LC

Cool.

ralphm: we decided that was unnecessary... i'll see if i can find the mail in the xmpp@ archives

fippo: while it may a no-op, it appears to me that enabling something in xmpp is typically a request-response exchange

fippo: I'd like to keep things consistent

ralphm: It usually is, but that's actually a bad thing in many cases (as it forces round trips and those are baaad).

Kev: I don't see why it couldn't be pipelined anyway

Right.

OK, so.

3) Date of next meeting.

Next week's going to be really rough for me to try and have a meeting.

Week after?

wfm

week after works for me

ralphm?

P2w is fine by me

And

4) Any other business?

Thanks everyone for another great FOSDEM and Summit

indeed!

Yes, thanks all, especially those arranging it.

also please add your notes to http://wiki.xmpp.org:12480/web/FOSDEM_Checklist

stpeter: http://wiki.xmpp.org:12480/web/FOSDEM_Checklist: FOSDEM Checklist - XMPP Wiki

stpeter: I did!

so that we can make it better next time

Kev: thanks much :)

ralphm: will poke dave if he remembers the rationale for not making it request-response, can't find it atm

fippo: ok, cool

Tobias: when I am a bit more settled I might ping you about iq:last and all that -- I want to make sure we all understand the changes that need to be made :-)

stpeter, okidoki :)

woah

11 hours last night, that is

I should try that, too

it was quite welcome :-)

I can imagine

I think we're still in session

Sorry.

We're done.

I guess that bit was important.

Thanks all :)

Woot

15min is not bad at all

heh

Thanks.

which, clearly, I neglected to do last time :(

stpeter: I'd be tempted to make it a repeating event

even if we sometimes decide to skip

possible, yeah

done for the 20th, anyway

I might be spoiled by google calendar

:)

which even allows for attaching a hangout to meetings like this

we use that at Mochi for our engineering meetings

(not that I'm suggesting this for regular council meetings)

arrrggh!

I didn't have this in my calendar, so I had another meeting instead

m&m: my fault about the calendar

so, +1 on LC for 288

belatedly

better late than never ;-)

m&m: :-/

ralphm: if my phone doesn't remind me, the meeting doesn't exist (-:

that awfully sounds like philosoraptor