XMPP Council - 2013-02-06

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  27. Kev

    I've poked Ralph.

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  29. Kev

    And he has arrived!

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  31. Kev

    Hi Ralph.

  32. Kev


  33. Kev

    Agenda-wise, we've got bidi.

  34. Kev

    I thought the RTT guys said they were going to submit, but I've not seen them do so.

  35. stpeter

    I think XEP-0152 is ready for a Last Call, too

  36. fippo

    bidi on short-notice

  37. Kev

    And HanzZ's roster stuff is hanging around, but I don't think he's actually submitted yet?

  38. fippo

    kev: can you poke dave?

  39. Tobias

    i'll try to have the XEP-0012 surrounding changes till next week

  40. Kev

    It's probably within my power, yes.

  41. stpeter

    Tobias: great

  42. Kev

    stpeter: You're mentioning this now for the first time, right? I've not missed it on the list.

  43. stpeter

    I've received a patch from Jef LaGrange about file info sharing, too, need to apply that

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  45. Kev

    1) Roll call.

  46. Kev

    I'm here!

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  48. stpeter

    see http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2013-January/027030.html

  49. stpeter

    but we can wait until the next meeting, no huge hurry given that it went 4+ years between updates ;-)

  50. Tobias

    here 2

  51. Kev

    m&m: You here?

  52. Kev

    I'll take that as a 'no'.

  53. stpeter

    m&m is AFK

  54. Kev

    stpeter: Ah, I didn't read that as an LC request.

  55. stpeter

    Kev: it wasn't

  56. stpeter

    Kev: next meeting is fine

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  58. Kev

    2) LC on Bidi.

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  60. Kev

    I'm happy to LC it.

  61. ralphm

    I'd comment that I expected a response exchange when requesting bidi

  62. stpeter

    seems like a fine idea -- fippo and I talked in Brussels about pushing dialback to Draft, too

  63. Tobias

    +1 on LC

  64. Kev


  65. fippo

    ralphm: we decided that was unnecessary... i'll see if i can find the mail in the xmpp@ archives

  66. ralphm

    fippo: while it may a no-op, it appears to me that enabling something in xmpp is typically a request-response exchange

  67. ralphm

    fippo: I'd like to keep things consistent

  68. Kev

    ralphm: It usually is, but that's actually a bad thing in many cases (as it forces round trips and those are baaad).

  69. ralphm

    Kev: I don't see why it couldn't be pipelined anyway

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  71. Kev

    OK, so.

  72. Kev

    3) Date of next meeting.

  73. Kev

    Next week's going to be really rough for me to try and have a meeting.

  74. Kev

    Week after?

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  76. stpeter

    week after works for me

  77. Kev


  78. ralphm

    P2w is fine by me

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  80. Kev

    4) Any other business?

  81. ralphm

    Thanks everyone for another great FOSDEM and Summit

  82. stpeter


  83. Kev

    Yes, thanks all, especially those arranging it.

  84. stpeter

    also please add your notes to http://wiki.xmpp.org:12480/web/FOSDEM_Checklist

  85. Kanchil

    stpeter: http://wiki.xmpp.org:12480/web/FOSDEM_Checklist: FOSDEM Checklist - XMPP Wiki

  86. Kev

    stpeter: I did!

  87. stpeter

    so that we can make it better next time

  88. stpeter

    Kev: thanks much :)

  89. fippo

    ralphm: will poke dave if he remembers the rationale for not making it request-response, can't find it atm

  90. ralphm

    fippo: ok, cool

  91. stpeter

    Tobias: when I am a bit more settled I might ping you about iq:last and all that -- I want to make sure we all understand the changes that need to be made :-)

  92. Tobias

    stpeter, okidoki :)

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  94. ralphm


  95. stpeter

    11 hours last night, that is

  96. ralphm

    I should try that, too

  97. stpeter

    it was quite welcome :-)

  98. ralphm

    I can imagine

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  100. ralphm

    I think we're still in session

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  102. Kev

    We're done.

  103. Kev

    I guess that bit was important.

  104. Kev

    Thanks all :)

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  107. ralphm

    15min is not bad at all

  108. stpeter


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  110. Kev


  111. stpeter

    which, clearly, I neglected to do last time :(

  112. ralphm

    stpeter: I'd be tempted to make it a repeating event

  113. ralphm

    even if we sometimes decide to skip

  114. stpeter

    possible, yeah

  115. stpeter

    done for the 20th, anyway

  116. ralphm

    I might be spoiled by google calendar

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  118. ralphm

    which even allows for attaching a hangout to meetings like this

  119. ralphm

    we use that at Mochi for our engineering meetings

  120. ralphm

    (not that I'm suggesting this for regular council meetings)

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  122. m&m

    I didn't have this in my calendar, so I had another meeting instead

  123. stpeter

    m&m: my fault about the calendar

  124. m&m

    so, +1 on LC for 288

  125. m&m


  126. stpeter

    better late than never ;-)

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  129. ralphm

    m&m: :-/

  130. m&m

    ralphm: if my phone doesn't remind me, the meeting doesn't exist (-:

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  132. Tobias

    that awfully sounds like philosoraptor

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