XMPP Council - 2013-04-17

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  28. Tobias can't attend the meeting later...will reply on list tomorrow
  29. Kev Ta.
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  31. ralphm Hi Fans!
  32. Kev It's a Ralph.
  33. m&m *THE* Ralph (m)
  34. Kev Ding.
  35. Kev 1) Roll call.
  36. m&m presente
  37. Kev I'm here.
  38. Kev MattJ?
  39. Kev ralphm?
  40. Kev Tobias sent apologies.
  41. ralphm Pong
  42. Kev No sign of other Matt, I've poked him directly too.
  43. Kev 2) http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0288.html Move to Draft?
  44. Kanchil Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0288.html: XEP-0288: Bidirectional Server-to-Server Connections
  45. Kev I'll vote onlist for this.
  46. m&m same here
  47. ralphm yeah
  48. Kev I'm strongly tempted to write up a mock and implement 220/288 myself just so I can claim to understand them properly, but realistically I won't have time in the next fortnight and will vote 'blind'.
  49. Kev 3) http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0152.html
  50. Kanchil Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0152.html: XEP-0152: Reachability Addresses
  51. MattJ Eek, here
  52. Kev Move to Draft?
  53. m&m I'll vote onlist
  54. MattJ Had another meeting fullscreen and didn't realise the itme
  55. MattJ *time
  56. ralphm Kev: maybe I should give that an actual attempt, while in-between jobs
  57. Kev I'd like to request an extended LC for this - the LC has had no feedback and I could only find one comment from Lance going back a few months when Peter said he wanted to advance it saying "good" or thereabouts.
  58. MattJ Has anyone implemented it?
  59. Kev Lance said something like "It's solved several problems for us already".
  60. ralphm that's one implementation
  61. MattJ Ah, great
  62. ralphm don't we want two?
  63. Kev Want, yes. We don't require it until Final.
  64. ralphm ah, right
  65. Kev Thankfully, or there's no chance of me getting 289 to Draft :)
  66. MattJ It certainly seems like something that will solve problems - I'm actually not opposed to moving it on as-is
  67. ralphm MattJ: yeah
  68. Kev MattJ: So you think we shouldn't extend the LC until someone replies?
  69. MattJ Kev, well I'm not opposed to extending it, but I don't see that it's strictly necessary
  70. MattJ More feedback would always be nicer - do you think we'll get it?
  71. m&m I'm not opposed to extending either
  72. MattJ (excluding Lance)
  73. Kev Moving to Draft when absolutely no-one has spoken in the LC supporting the idea seems bad.
  74. ralphm Kev: good point
  75. MattJ Well extend it and poke Lance daily :)
  76. Kev All happy with that?
  77. MattJ nods
  78. m&m I'll ask stpeter if he's aware of other interest
  79. m&m yes
  80. Kev m&m: Ta.
  81. Kev 4) http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/fis.html Accept as Experimental?
  82. Kanchil Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/fis.html: XEP-xxxx: File Information Sharing
  83. m&m hrm
  84. Kev I don't mind publishing this, although I have absolutely no idea what http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0254.html has to do with it :)
  85. Kanchil Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0254.html: XEP-0254: PubSub Queueing
  86. MattJ Heh, I think that might be a typo
  87. Kev Oh. That hadn't occurred to me, really :p
  88. Kev Anyone want to comment in-meeting, or is everyone else going onlist?
  89. MattJ I'll vote on-list
  90. MattJ Haven't read this version
  91. ralphm Not opposed
  92. Kev m&m?
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  94. Kev "hrm" wasn't clear to me :)
  95. m&m I did not get a chance to read through it before … I'll say something on list
  96. Kev Ta.
  97. m&m just that this almost feels like yet-another-file-sharing attempt
  98. Kev 5) http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/rayo.html Accept as Experimental?
  99. Kanchil Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/rayo.html: XEP-xxxx: Rayo
  100. Kev I've had no chance to read this, will post onlist.
  101. m&m same
  102. MattJ Me also
  103. MattJ I read an earlier draft, and it seemed sane (once the requirements were understood)
  104. ralphm http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0251.html was the reference, probably, by the way
  105. Kanchil ralphm: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0251.html: XEP-0251: Jingle Session Transfer
  106. Kev ralphm: Yes, probably :)
  107. Kev ralphm: You onlist for RAYO?
  108. ralphm Yeah, it is looong
  109. Kev 6) http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sensor-network-control.html Accept as Experimental?
  110. Kanchil Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sensor-network-control.html: XEP-xxxx: Sensor Networks - Control
  111. Kev Onlist for me.
  112. MattJ Ditto
  113. ralphm AOL
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  115. Kev Morning Peter.
  116. ralphm hey stpeter
  117. stpeter sigh
  118. ralphm stpeter: what about making it a repeating event, pretty please?
  119. Kev m&m: You onlist for this one?
  120. m&m Kev: yes
  121. Kev 7) http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sensor-network-concentrators.html Accept as Experimental?
  122. Kanchil Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sensor-network-concentrators.html: XEP-xxxx: Sensor Networks - Concentrators
  123. Kev Onlist for me again.
  124. m&m one list
  125. m&m on list even
  126. MattJ Ditto
  127. ralphm AOL
  128. Kev 8) Next meeting.
  129. Kev I can't do usual time next week.
  130. ralphm SBTSBC
  131. MattJ I can :)
  132. Kev (Or most of next week, in fact).
  133. Kev You're welcome to meet without me, or postpone for a week.
  134. m&m I can, too (-:
  135. ralphm Let's just keep the slot
  136. m&m /nod
  137. ralphm maybe there'll be nothing anyway
  138. Kev OK. Who wants to chair?
  139. m&m I can
  140. MattJ nominates m&m
  141. Kev OK.
  142. ralphm yay
  143. m&m hehe
  144. MattJ That settles it :)
  145. Kev m&m: Consider apologies sent.
  146. m&m Kev: noted
  147. Kev 9) Any other business?
  148. MattJ My quick comments on #2 as I was late...
  149. MattJ I'm +1, but think the security considerations need expanding
  150. ralphm If we can have the calendar event repeating or up-to-date?
  151. MattJ (the LC feedback was along those lines too)
  152. Kev ralphm: I don't know if it's possible to mark it repeating, but it seems sensible.
  153. Kev I think Tobias has been updating the calendar recently, so we can poke him.
  154. Kev AOAOB?
  155. MattJ No
  156. m&m nay
  157. Kev Jolly good.
  158. Kev Think we're done, then.
  159. Kev Thanks all.
  160. Kev bangs the gavel.
  161. MattJ Thanks Kev
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  163. ralphm yay!
  164. ralphm Peter Waher: good timing!
  165. Peter Waher seems I missed everything
  166. jabberjocke anyone needs discussion on our xeps
  167. Kev Peter Waher: Or nothing. Most stuff will happen on list.
  168. jabberjocke while we are here both
  169. Peter Waher ok, sounds good :)
  170. Peter Waher I'm happy to respond to any questions, comments, suggestions, doubts anybody might have
  171. jabberjocke the wiki pages are evolving http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Tech_pages/IoT_systems
  172. Kanchil jabberjocke: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Tech_pages/IoT_systems: Tech pages/IoT systems - XMPP Wiki
  173. Kev Thanks. I've not read the new ones yet.
  174. Peter Waher ok
  175. Peter Waher anything, just mail me. I'll try to respond as quickly as possible
  176. Peter Waher or by IM, Skype, etc.
  177. ralphm Skype!
  178. jabberjocke I apologize for my friend :)
  179. Peter Waher hehe, swearing in the church... :) Sorry.
  180. Peter Waher Skype would be better, if it used XMPP though. Let's convince them that's a good idea.
  181. ralphm Peter Waher: good luck with that
  182. Kev They nearly did.
  183. ralphm But if you manage that, more power to you!
  184. Kev They approached Justin (of Psi) to see about using Psi when they were starting out, but they wrote their own thing instead.
  185. Kev Oh, it's that time. Need to duck out.
  186. jabberjocke when will date for the next summit be decided?
  187. ralphm when the date for RealtimeConf is announced
  188. ralphm jabberjocke: so bug @yet for that :-D
  189. ralphm &yet even
  190. jabberjocke ok would like to plan a IoT track, presenting the xep's etc.
  191. jabberjocke will ask him
  192. ralphm nice
  193. stpeter jabberjocke: probably in October
  194. stpeter jabberjocke: I'll ping the &yet folks about that
  195. stpeter jabberjocke: we don't really have tracks (usually), but we do assign time to various topics
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  197. jabberjocke It's a large subject, A presentation can be a good start, think hands on is needed also but thats perhaps another forum.
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