XMPP Council - 2013-04-17

can't attend the meeting later...will reply on list tomorrow

Ta.

Hi Fans!

It's a Ralph.

*THE* Ralph (m)

Ding.

1) Roll call.

presente

I'm here.

MattJ?

ralphm?

Tobias sent apologies.

Pong

No sign of other Matt, I've poked him directly too.

2) http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0288.html Move to Draft?

Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0288.html: XEP-0288: Bidirectional Server-to-Server Connections

I'll vote onlist for this.

same here

yeah

I'm strongly tempted to write up a mock and implement 220/288 myself just so I can claim to understand them properly, but realistically I won't have time in the next fortnight and will vote 'blind'.

3) http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0152.html

Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0152.html: XEP-0152: Reachability Addresses

Eek, here

Move to Draft?

I'll vote onlist

Had another meeting fullscreen and didn't realise the itme

*time

Kev: maybe I should give that an actual attempt, while in-between jobs

I'd like to request an extended LC for this - the LC has had no feedback and I could only find one comment from Lance going back a few months when Peter said he wanted to advance it saying "good" or thereabouts.

Has anyone implemented it?

Lance said something like "It's solved several problems for us already".

that's one implementation

Ah, great

don't we want two?

Want, yes. We don't require it until Final.

ah, right

Thankfully, or there's no chance of me getting 289 to Draft :)

It certainly seems like something that will solve problems - I'm actually not opposed to moving it on as-is

MattJ: yeah

MattJ: So you think we shouldn't extend the LC until someone replies?

Kev, well I'm not opposed to extending it, but I don't see that it's strictly necessary

More feedback would always be nicer - do you think we'll get it?

I'm not opposed to extending either

(excluding Lance)

Moving to Draft when absolutely no-one has spoken in the LC supporting the idea seems bad.

Kev: good point

Well extend it and poke Lance daily :)

All happy with that?

I'll ask stpeter if he's aware of other interest

yes

m&m: Ta.

4) http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/fis.html Accept as Experimental?

Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/fis.html: XEP-xxxx: File Information Sharing

hrm

I don't mind publishing this, although I have absolutely no idea what http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0254.html has to do with it :)

Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0254.html: XEP-0254: PubSub Queueing

Heh, I think that might be a typo

Oh. That hadn't occurred to me, really :p

Anyone want to comment in-meeting, or is everyone else going onlist?

I'll vote on-list

Haven't read this version

Not opposed

m&m?

"hrm" wasn't clear to me :)

I did not get a chance to read through it before … I'll say something on list

Ta.

just that this almost feels like yet-another-file-sharing attempt

5) http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/rayo.html Accept as Experimental?

Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/rayo.html: XEP-xxxx: Rayo

I've had no chance to read this, will post onlist.

same

Me also

I read an earlier draft, and it seemed sane (once the requirements were understood)

http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0251.html was the reference, probably, by the way

ralphm: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0251.html: XEP-0251: Jingle Session Transfer

ralphm: Yes, probably :)

ralphm: You onlist for RAYO?

Yeah, it is looong

6) http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sensor-network-control.html Accept as Experimental?

Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sensor-network-control.html: XEP-xxxx: Sensor Networks - Control

Onlist for me.

Ditto

AOL

Morning Peter.

hey stpeter

sigh

stpeter: what about making it a repeating event, pretty please?

m&m: You onlist for this one?

Kev: yes

7) http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sensor-network-concentrators.html Accept as Experimental?

Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sensor-network-concentrators.html: XEP-xxxx: Sensor Networks - Concentrators

Onlist for me again.

one list

on list even

Ditto

AOL

8) Next meeting.

I can't do usual time next week.

SBTSBC

I can :)

(Or most of next week, in fact).

You're welcome to meet without me, or postpone for a week.

I can, too (-:

Let's just keep the slot

/nod

maybe there'll be nothing anyway

OK. Who wants to chair?

I can

OK.

yay

hehe

That settles it :)

m&m: Consider apologies sent.

Kev: noted

9) Any other business?

My quick comments on #2 as I was late...

I'm +1, but think the security considerations need expanding

If we can have the calendar event repeating or up-to-date?

(the LC feedback was along those lines too)

ralphm: I don't know if it's possible to mark it repeating, but it seems sensible.

I think Tobias has been updating the calendar recently, so we can poke him.

AOAOB?

No

nay

Jolly good.

Think we're done, then.

Thanks all.

Thanks Kev

yay!

Peter Waher: good timing!

seems I missed everything

anyone needs discussion on our xeps

Peter Waher: Or nothing. Most stuff will happen on list.

while we are here both

ok, sounds good :)

I'm happy to respond to any questions, comments, suggestions, doubts anybody might have

the wiki pages are evolving http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Tech_pages/IoT_systems

jabberjocke: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Tech_pages/IoT_systems: Tech pages/IoT systems - XMPP Wiki

Thanks. I've not read the new ones yet.

ok

anything, just mail me. I'll try to respond as quickly as possible

or by IM, Skype, etc.

Skype!

I apologize for my friend :)

hehe, swearing in the church... :) Sorry.

Skype would be better, if it used XMPP though. Let's convince them that's a good idea.

Peter Waher: good luck with that

They nearly did.

But if you manage that, more power to you!

They approached Justin (of Psi) to see about using Psi when they were starting out, but they wrote their own thing instead.

Oh, it's that time. Need to duck out.

when will date for the next summit be decided?

when the date for RealtimeConf is announced

jabberjocke: so bug @yet for that :-D

&yet even

ok would like to plan a IoT track, presenting the xep's etc.

will ask him

nice

jabberjocke: probably in October

jabberjocke: I'll ping the &yet folks about that

jabberjocke: we don't really have tracks (usually), but we do assign time to various topics

It's a large subject, A presentation can be a good start, think hands on is needed also but thats perhaps another forum.