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Tobias
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can't attend the meeting later...will reply on list tomorrow
Kev
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Ta.
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ralphm
14:59:23
Hi Fans!
Kev
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It's a Ralph.
m&m
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*THE* Ralph (m)
Kev
15:04:21
Ding.
Kev
15:04:24
1) Roll call.
m&m
15:04:37
presente
Kev
15:04:45
I'm here.
Kev
15:04:54
MattJ?
Kev
15:05:07
ralphm?
Kev
15:05:15
Tobias sent apologies.
ralphm
15:05:33
Pong
Kev
15:06:32
No sign of other Matt, I've poked him directly too.
Kev
15:06:54
2) http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0288.html
Move to Draft?
Kanchil
15:06:54
Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0288.html:
XEP-0288: Bidirectional Server-to-Server Connections
Kev
15:07:22
I'll vote onlist for this.
m&m
15:07:27
same here
ralphm
15:08:17
yeah
Kev
15:08:23
I'm strongly tempted to write up a mock and implement 220/288 myself just so I can claim to understand them properly, but realistically I won't have time in the next fortnight and will vote 'blind'.
Kev
15:08:54
3) http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0152.html
Kanchil
15:08:55
Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0152.html:
XEP-0152: Reachability Addresses
MattJ
15:08:58
Eek, here
Kev
15:09:00
Move to Draft?
m&m
15:09:04
I'll vote onlist
MattJ
15:09:09
Had another meeting fullscreen and didn't realise the itme
MattJ
15:09:10
*time
ralphm
15:09:18
Kev: maybe I should give that an actual attempt, while in-between jobs
Kev
15:09:41
I'd like to request an extended LC for this - the LC has had no feedback and I could only find one comment from Lance going back a few months when Peter said he wanted to advance it saying "good" or thereabouts.
MattJ
15:10:01
Has anyone implemented it?
Kev
15:10:12
Lance said something like "It's solved several problems for us already".
ralphm
15:10:23
that's one implementation
MattJ
15:10:23
Ah, great
ralphm
15:10:32
don't we want two?
Kev
15:10:40
Want, yes. We don't require it until Final.
ralphm
15:10:51
ah, right
Kev
15:10:55
Thankfully, or there's no chance of me getting 289 to Draft :)
MattJ
15:10:57
It certainly seems like something that will solve problems - I'm actually not opposed to moving it on as-is
ralphm
15:11:27
MattJ: yeah
Kev
15:11:29
MattJ: So you think we shouldn't extend the LC until someone replies?
MattJ
15:12:00
Kev, well I'm not opposed to extending it, but I don't see that it's strictly necessary
MattJ
15:12:20
More feedback would always be nicer - do you think we'll get it?
m&m
15:12:21
I'm not opposed to extending either
MattJ
15:12:24
(excluding Lance)
Kev
15:12:31
Moving to Draft when absolutely no-one has spoken in the LC supporting the idea seems bad.
ralphm
15:12:54
Kev: good point
MattJ
15:12:57
Well extend it and poke Lance daily :)
Kev
15:13:09
All happy with that?
MattJ
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15:13:16
m&m
15:13:17
I'll ask stpeter if he's aware of other interest
m&m
15:13:22
yes
Kev
15:13:23
m&m: Ta.
Kev
15:13:40
4) http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/fis.html
Accept as Experimental?
Kanchil
15:13:41
Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/fis.html:
XEP-xxxx: File Information Sharing
m&m
15:13:46
hrm
Kev
15:14:03
I don't mind publishing this, although I have absolutely no idea what http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0254.html has to do with it :)
Kanchil
15:14:04
Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0254.html:
XEP-0254: PubSub Queueing
MattJ
15:14:55
Heh, I think that might be a typo
Kev
15:15:12
Oh. That hadn't occurred to me, really :p
Kev
15:15:42
Anyone want to comment in-meeting, or is everyone else going onlist?
MattJ
15:15:58
I'll vote on-list
MattJ
15:16:05
Haven't read this version
ralphm
15:16:06
Not opposed
Kev
15:16:18
m&m?
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Kev
15:16:25
"hrm" wasn't clear to me :)
m&m
15:16:32
I did not get a chance to read through it before … I'll say something on list
Kev
15:16:37
Ta.
m&m
15:16:46
just that this almost feels like yet-another-file-sharing attempt
Kev
15:16:51
5) http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/rayo.html
Accept as Experimental?
Kanchil
15:16:52
Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/rayo.html:
XEP-xxxx: Rayo
Kev
15:16:59
I've had no chance to read this, will post onlist.
m&m
15:17:11
same
MattJ
15:17:47
Me also
MattJ
15:18:03
I read an earlier draft, and it seemed sane (once the requirements were understood)
ralphm
15:18:15
http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0251.html was the reference, probably, by the way
Kanchil
15:18:15
ralphm: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0251.html:
XEP-0251: Jingle Session Transfer
Kev
15:18:27
ralphm: Yes, probably :)
Kev
15:18:47
ralphm: You onlist for RAYO?
ralphm
15:18:54
Yeah, it is looong
Kev
15:18:57
6) http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sensor-network-control.html
Accept as Experimental?
Kanchil
15:18:58
Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sensor-network-control.html:
XEP-xxxx: Sensor Networks - Control
Kev
15:19:02
Onlist for me.
MattJ
15:19:09
Ditto
ralphm
15:19:27
AOL
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Kev
15:19:34
Morning Peter.
ralphm
15:19:36
hey stpeter
stpeter
15:19:50
sigh
ralphm
15:20:44
stpeter: what about making it a repeating event, pretty please?
Kev
15:20:53
m&m: You onlist for this one?
m&m
15:21:00
Kev: yes
Kev
15:21:06
7) http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sensor-network-concentrators.html
Accept as Experimental?
Kanchil
15:21:08
Kev: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sensor-network-concentrators.html:
XEP-xxxx: Sensor Networks - Concentrators
Kev
15:21:09
Onlist for me again.
m&m
15:21:11
one list
m&m
15:21:13
on list even
MattJ
15:21:14
Ditto
ralphm
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AOL
Kev
15:21:25
8) Next meeting.
Kev
15:21:28
I can't do usual time next week.
ralphm
15:21:31
SBTSBC
MattJ
15:21:33
I can :)
Kev
15:21:34
(Or most of next week, in fact).
Kev
15:21:44
You're welcome to meet without me, or postpone for a week.
m&m
15:21:48
I can, too (-:
ralphm
15:22:03
Let's just keep the slot
m&m
15:22:07
/nod
ralphm
15:22:10
maybe there'll be nothing anyway
Kev
15:22:11
OK. Who wants to chair?
m&m
15:22:23
I can
MattJ
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Kev
15:22:27
OK.
ralphm
15:22:28
yay
m&m
15:22:28
hehe
MattJ
15:22:30
That settles it :)
Kev
15:22:32
m&m: Consider apologies sent.
m&m
15:22:39
Kev: noted
Kev
15:22:41
9) Any other business?
MattJ
15:23:04
My quick comments on #2 as I was late...
MattJ
15:23:16
I'm +1, but think the security considerations need expanding
ralphm
15:23:31
If we can have the calendar event repeating or up-to-date?
MattJ
15:23:34
(the LC feedback was along those lines too)
Kev
15:24:49
ralphm: I don't know if it's possible to mark it repeating, but it seems sensible.
Kev
15:25:00
I think Tobias has been updating the calendar recently, so we can poke him.
Kev
15:25:02
AOAOB?
MattJ
15:25:11
No
m&m
15:25:35
nay
Kev
15:25:39
Jolly good.
Kev
15:25:43
Think we're done, then.
Kev
15:25:46
Thanks all.
Kev
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MattJ
15:25:52
Thanks Kev
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ralphm
15:25:54
yay!
ralphm
15:26:01
Peter Waher: good timing!
Peter Waher
15:26:22
seems I missed everything
jabberjocke
15:26:34
anyone needs discussion on our xeps
Kev
15:26:37
Peter Waher: Or nothing. Most stuff will happen on list.
jabberjocke
15:26:41
while we are here both
Peter Waher
15:26:55
ok, sounds good :)
Peter Waher
15:27:20
I'm happy to respond to any questions, comments, suggestions, doubts anybody might have
jabberjocke
15:27:27
the wiki pages are evolving http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Tech_pages/IoT_systems
Kanchil
15:27:29
jabberjocke: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Tech_pages/IoT_systems:
Tech pages/IoT systems - XMPP Wiki
Kev
15:27:31
Thanks. I've not read the new ones yet.
Peter Waher
15:28:33
ok
Peter Waher
15:28:51
anything, just mail me. I'll try to respond as quickly as possible
Peter Waher
15:29:12
or by IM, Skype, etc.
ralphm
15:30:29
Skype!
jabberjocke
15:31:10
I apologize for my friend :)
Peter Waher
15:31:21
hehe, swearing in the church... :) Sorry.
Peter Waher
15:31:53
Skype would be better, if it used XMPP though. Let's convince them that's a good idea.
ralphm
15:32:57
Peter Waher: good luck with that
Kev
15:33:08
They nearly did.
ralphm
15:33:15
But if you manage that, more power to you!
Kev
15:33:27
They approached Justin (of Psi) to see about using Psi when they were starting out, but they wrote their own thing instead.
Kev
15:34:00
Oh, it's that time. Need to duck out.
jabberjocke
15:36:13
when will date for the next summit be decided?
ralphm
15:37:06
when the date for RealtimeConf is announced
ralphm
15:37:45
jabberjocke: so bug @yet for that :-D
ralphm
15:37:50
&yet even
jabberjocke
15:42:56
ok would like to plan a IoT track, presenting the xep's etc.
jabberjocke
15:43:36
will ask him
ralphm
15:46:18
nice
stpeter
15:46:27
jabberjocke: probably in October
stpeter
15:46:34
jabberjocke: I'll ping the &yet folks about that
stpeter
15:46:53
jabberjocke: we don't really have tracks (usually), but we do assign time to various topics
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jabberjocke
15:56:05
It's a large subject, A presentation can be a good start, think hands on is needed also but thats perhaps another forum.
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