XMPP Council - 2013-04-24

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  20. psa is hell-bent to actually be in attendance today :P

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  23. Zash

    Is there a council meeting today?

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  25. Zash

    great idea

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  27. m&m

    Zash: Yes. Yes there is.

  28. Zash

    Missing calendar item?

  29. psa

    yeah we need to set it up as recurring

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  32. m&m

    Ding ding dign

  33. m&m

    ding even

  34. m&m

    1) Roll Call

  35. Tobias

    psa, right...it somehow got dropped from my mind

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  38. m&m

    and I'm present

  39. m&m

    so there's at least quorum

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  41. Tobias

    and there goes our quorum

  42. m&m

    I've pinged ralphm, but he's auto-away

  43. MattJ_

    I'm here :)

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  47. Tobias

    MattJ_, ahh...my prepping removes _

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  49. m&m

    2) http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/rayo.html Accept as Experimental?

  50. Kanchil

    m&m: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/rayo.html: XEP-xxxx: Rayo

  51. MattJ

    What is it with all the loooong XEPs coming our way this term? :)

  52. m&m

    Yes, we did discuss this last week. No one has yet voiced a position

  53. m&m


  54. m&m

    apparently XMPP has hit the "mature" phase, and now people are doing "serious things" with it, or something (-:

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  56. m&m

    anyway, I've no objections to rayo

  57. psa

    m&m: yeah

  58. Tobias

    i understand the need for such a protocol

  59. psa

    I talked with the Rayo guys at realtimeconf back in October, BTW

  60. Tobias

    no objections from my side

  61. m&m


  62. MattJ

    I'm still going to vote on list

  63. m&m

    note you now have a week

  64. MattJ

    Noted :)

  65. m&m

    3) http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sensor-network-control.html Accept as Experimental?

  66. Kanchil

    m&m: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sensor-network-control.html: XEP-xxxx: Sensor Networks - Control

  67. MattJ

    Ditto for me

  68. Tobias

    wonder why type has to be explicitly specified, can't it be deduced from the name?

  69. psa

    gosh I have a lot of specs to catch up on, haven't even read the EXI one yet :(

  70. m&m

    Tobias: I can see why type cannot always be inferred, but part of me wonders if this could have been data forms

  71. m&m

    however, I've no objections to publishing it as experimental

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  73. Tobias

    yeah...no objections to have it as experimental...at least then we have it under diff control

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  75. m&m

    and MattJ has one week to note on list

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  77. MattJ

    Noted :)

  78. m&m

    4) http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sensor-network-concentrators.html Accept as Experimental?

  79. Kanchil

    m&m: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/sensor-network-concentrators.html: XEP-xxxx: Sensor Networks - Concentrators

  80. MattJ

    ditto :)

  81. m&m

    no objections to being experimental from me

  82. Tobias

    none from me

  83. Tobias

    but i really think there's potential for abstractions (moving stuff out into smaller XEPs)

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  86. m&m pre-notes MattJ's note on noting he has a week to decide (-:

  87. m&m

    5) Date of Next Meeting

  88. m&m

    I think SBTSBC works for me

  89. Tobias

    sure...it's a holiday here but i'll probably have time

  90. m&m notes that MattJ cannot simply note this one (-:

  91. psa notes to Tobias that http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5545#section-3.3.10 is complicated

  92. Kanchil

    psa: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5545#section-3.3.10: RFC 5545 - Internet Calendaring and Scheduling Core Object Specification (iCalendar)

  93. MattJ

    Next week is fine :)

  94. m&m

    alright … and maybe Tobias can add it to the calendar right now (-:

  95. Zash notes that psa's note is correctly noted

  96. m&m

    6) Any Other Business

  97. Tobias

    psa, indeed...that's probably why i drifted away from it....probably easier to just replicate the current set date in there + same day in the following X weeks :)

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  100. m&m

    I take there is no other business?

  101. Tobias

    none here

  102. m&m

    Note that today is Passive-Aggressive Wednesday

  103. Tobias

    what's that?

  104. MattJ

    None here

  105. m&m

    Tobias: mostly a joke, but the day in my office we get particularly snarky at each other (-:

  106. m&m

    ok then

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  108. Tobias

    thanks m&m

  109. m&m

    Minutes will be delivered presently, such as they are

  110. psa

    Tobias: OK, I set up all the meetings for May in the calendar

  111. MattJ

    Thanks m&m :)

  112. m&m

    psa: yay!

  113. Tobias

    psa, manually?

  114. psa

    5 meetings in May

  115. Tobias

    okay...then i don't have to change the python script :)

  116. psa

    Tobias: yes, just separate events for now until we figure out recurrence

  117. Zash

    recurrence, but with exceptions ... the horror

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  119. m&m


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  122. m&m

    damn focus!

  123. m&m


  124. m&m

    could someone that oversees council@xmpp.org just delete the missive from mamille2@cisco.com? kthxbye

  125. psa


  126. m&m

    I like to pretend my XSF involvement is separated from my day job for some reason (-:

  127. psa

    can add that as an accept address

  128. m&m

    no, I would prefer it be quarantined

  129. psa

    actually it was automatically discarded, it seems

  130. m&m

    even better (-:

  131. psa

    heh ok

  132. psa

    time for a conference call here, bbiab

  133. m&m

    same here

  134. psa


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