I'm going to quickly wash my hands, and then will be here!
Kev
Right. I'm here.
Kev
1) Roll call.
m&m
presente
Tobias
here
ralphm
ping
Kev
I've poked MattJ.
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Kev
And he's on his way, excellent.
MattJ
and he's here
Kev
Magic.
Kev
So I think our only item for today is the one from list.
Tobias
yay
Kev
2) Last call for Real Time Text?
Kev
The amount of AOLing on the list was a little distracting.
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Tobias
AOLing?
Kev
"Me too"
m&m
yeah
Tobias
ahh
Kev
Posts just agreeing with the person above, without adding anything to the discussion.
stpeter
m2
MattJ
Heh
Peter Waher
Hello. Present if anybody has questions
Kev
Anyway.
m&m
+1 to last call … and not simply to make the m2's stop!
MattJ
I'm +1 to LC
Kev
I'm not opposed to LCing it.
Tobias
is that somehow related to AOL corp?
Kev
Tobias: Users in the early days of AOL.
MattJ
Tobias, yes
Tobias
i'm +1 on the LC
Tobias
ahh
ralphm
+1
Kev
I think that's everyone.
Kev
I think I still owe some votes from last meeting, but are there any other voting items for this week that I've missed?
ralphm
Not opposed to the previous items.
Kev
I didn't notice any other mails fly by (although having had a week off in which I genuinely didn't open my XMPP or mail client all holiday, I might be missing one).
stpeter
Kev: good for you!
Tobias
i've just send my remaining vote to the list
Kev
It was quite remarkable :)
stpeter
heh
Kev
First time in 9 years that I've done it.
Kev
Personal and work email ignored!
Kev
Anyway.
Kev
If there's nothing else new, I think we're on to 3) Date of next.
Lance
Kev: There was http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/jidprep.html that I submitted a while ago that needs to go on the docket
I'm giving a talk on the XSF and the XEP process next Wed at the London realtime thing, if anyone has suggestions (I've obviously not started it yet :))
Lance
seems to have fallen through the cracks to get out of last call
m&m
yikes
Kev
Oh. I thought we'd voted that to Draft.
m&m
me to
m&m
too
Kev
But it seems we voted it to LC 28th Nov, and then didn't touch it again.
for link relations, see http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5988
Kanchil
stpeter: http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5988:
RFC 5988 - Web Linking
stpeter
we happen to know the experts ;-)
stpeter
http://www.iana.org/assignments/well-known-uris/well-known-uris.xml and http://www.iana.org/assignments/link-relations/link-relations.xml
m&m
right … and a quick glance at RFC5785 seems to require an RFC
Kev
So, someone needs to write an RFC, and therefore it's not Councilish? :)
m&m
and the same for link relations
m&m
I think that settles it
m&m
Kev: it would appear to be the case
Kev
Excellent AOAOAOAOAOAOAOAOB?
ralphm
It is councillish because we give general guidance towards proper venues for standardisation.
stpeter
:)
ralphm
:-D
Tobias
Kev, none from me
m&m
no more from me, I don't think (-:
Kev
Excellent.
MattJ
Let's see if we can come up with OB and overrun 30 minutes to see what happens to Kev
m&m
haha
Kev
Given what I've got going on this evening, I'll unilaterally end the meeting :p
ralphm
Is RealtimeConf planned yet?
stpeter
m&m: "Specification Required" != "RFC Required"
Kev
So, I think we're done!
Kev
Thanks all.
ralphm
Kev: what!
MattJ
Thanks
ralphm
I am asking a question here
Kev
ralphm: Realtime conf discussions aren't councilish, so the discussion can happen afterwards :)
stpeter
I second the call to end the official part of the meeting
ralphm
tsk
jabberjocke
I would like to have IoT session on the realtime conf
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Kev
Excellent. Thanks all.
Kevbangs the gavel.
m&m
haha
jabberjocke
a question
stpeter
jabberjocke: sure!
jabberjocke
have you looked at the http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Tech_pages/IoT_systems
ralphm
Awesome. I just got an e-mail titled "Concealed Business Proposition"
Kanchil
jabberjocke: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Tech_pages/IoT_systems:
Tech pages/IoT systems - XMPP Wiki
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stpeter
jabberjocke: the Realtime Conference is http://www.realtimeconf.com/ -- we will probably hold an XMPP Summit around that time
stpeter
jabberjocke: I haven't looked at those pages yet
jabberjocke
that would be good to be able to discuss our IoT things
jabberjocke
there is now SleekXMPP implementations done
jabberjocke
and clayster is also implementing
jabberjocke
I'm in San Francisco contacting stanford berkley etc
jabberjocke
to get more feedback
ralphm
now he tells me
ralphm
I just got back from SF
jabberjocke
:(
stpeter
ralphm: I hope your trip went well!
jabberjocke
sorry to miss you
ralphm
stpeter: very well indeed
jabberjocke
I sent out on the lists, had a meeting yesterday at a grappa bar very nice :)
stpeter
Lance: I suggest we update XEP-0156 to include the .well-known stuff -- or do you think that a separate spec is needed? I'd kind of like to define all the alternative discovery mechanisms in one place
stpeter
ralphm: excellent!
Lance
stpeter: +1 on keeping it all in one document, as long as it doesn't get too big
stpeter
Lance: I don't think it will
Lance
ok, then I'll add upating 156 to my list
m&m
stpeter: I doubt it
m&m
er… s/stepeter://
m&m
I doubt it'll get too big
m&m
just need some examples
jabberjocke
when will a summit be decided?
m&m
and the definitions for new host-meta link relations
stpeter
jabberjocke: probably when the Realtime Conf is decided -- but we know the people who run that ;-)