XMPP Council - 2013-06-12

I thought I'd written myself a note of things for the agenda today, but I can't find it. Hrmm.

greetings

Righty.

hola

Tobias send apologies last week, as I recall. Matt's just sent them on list.

1) Roll Call.

here

presente

By my reckoning there's nothing to discuss this week.

Anyone have fun ways I'm wrong?

I can't think of anything

heh

In that case.

2) Date of next meeting.

I can't do next week, but y'all can sure have a meeting without me if you like.

I suggest just keeping on meeting every week

ralphm: works for me

m&m: Do you want to volunteer for your normal backup Kev routine?:)

+!

sure (-:

Thanks.

it's less work than a IETF WG (-:

no kidding

I tend to be lax about sending out minutes for meetings that don't have anything discussed in them. Does anyonecare about that?

ralphm: weekly is good, I think

Kev: nah

OK, thanks.

I suppose I should, really, to record attendance.

I also think just keeping it regularly scheduled is best

ah right

that reminds me

I only just thought about this.

3) AOB

there is a year missing in the vote tallies

ouch

ralphm: really?!?

oh, AOB

note there is now a reservation at the IETF 87 venue for us

http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xmpp-council/seventh-council/

hmm

I'll check into it

no hurry

m&m: What does that mean, for us mere non-IETF mortals?

the data is in the database

Kev: that you don't have to sit out on the street to meet up

Kev: it means that m&m is having fun with the JSON WG :-)

haha

Excellent.

it means we likely have a spot for an XMPP Hackfest

in Berlin

I am a bit sad, but I won't make it there. It is in the middle of my planned holiday.

yeah

sorry to hear it

arrgh

but I'm thinking we'll do London next March, too

To prevent that happening in the future, I've put the next three instances in my calendar

indeed

March 2014 - 89th IETF March 2-7, 2014 Host: TBD Location: London, England

and Canada in November, I believe

yes

Now, London is somewhat more interesting for me.

Kev: really? Berlin is nice. Not far, too.

and don't forget IETF 91 in Hawaii :-)

heh

that'll be a busy one, I'd guess

ralphm: I don't travel well, but I'm in London a reasonable amount when I go to the office.

Kev: I think you can still do Berlin by train :-D

Anyway, was there any Council action in amongst this anywhere? :)

oh, we weren't done yet?

given all the IETF meetings I've been to at Minneapolis in November and March, I think a trip to Hawaii is justified

Kev: no :-)

Marvellous.

Thanks all!

stpeter: haha

gracias

Thanks!

Also, yay for RealtimeConf

noted

Looking forward to that

http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xmpp-council/seventh-council/ fixed

I had only ever saved it as a draft

and never published it

well, "I" or someone else like Will (whoever worked on copying over those pages)

:-D

Grrrr. It annoys me the way that recruiters using LinkedIn send whatever the LI equivalent of friends requests are, with no way for you to reply unless you accept them.

I do not know these people, they are not part of my professional network!

+∞

why reply anyway

I have better things to worry about

ralphm: Well, it'd be nice to at least say "I'm happy where I am, but if you're prepared to offer me all the gold I can eat I'd consider it".

And my general sense of niceness makes it uncomfortable not answering them.

Kev: yeah, I'm sure they'd use LinkedIn to reach out to you for that

in general, I consider them on equal footing with telemarketeers

Heh. I don't, largely because I've opted out of receiving telemarketing, and my LI profile says I'm up for job offers.

well, there you go

It's not receiving the pokes that bothers me, just that they way they do it isn't helpful.

right

messages are one thing

Agreed

"friend" requests are quite another

Anyway. Not the biggest irritation in life, just that I had another one just then and I got frustrated.

I think I have about a dozen I've been ignoring

m&m: yeah

I'm only on about half that, now I feel unpopular :(

well, if you traveled more … (-:

Similarly, I often get people adding me because they know of me

/nod

but who I probably never communicated with

The most recent one seems quite relevant, relatively. C++, local area. Much better than the normal, which is "Could I interest you in a move to (Insert City Here)".

although not often for me … now *I* feel unpopular

Ralph is the social center of the world.

Dammit.

well, he is a lot of fun to drink beer with

m&m: that's the key

haha

now I am sad, because I won't be doing that in Berlin

you guys are still yammering on here?

evidently

:)

It's more fun than doing real work.

I thought Yammer removed XMPP support

Kev: by the way, cool this: https://twitter.com/definitivekev/statuses/344807063836319744

Kev: were both endpoints using that code, or did you have a native client, too?

ralphm: Both clients were viewing the same web client, communicating with isode.com over BOSH.

right

ralphm: And the web client was Fippo's MUC example from his repo.

nice!

I don't think it's quite production ready (the MUC example), but it's very cool, and it's great that they open sourced this.

I've tried it with two peers

I really really want to put VVOIP into Swift now. I just need that TARDIS.

heh

Can I submit an errata for the errata? It says "not mistakenly", when it should read "mistakenly not" :D

Kev: hehe, I thought the same thing