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Tobias
what's the agenda for todays meeting?
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Kev
I haven't seen any new items. Unless I missed some.
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Kev
I haven't got as far as last week's minutes yet. Nor the week before's.
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Tobias
ok
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Kev
I need a holiday.
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Tobias
RECOMMENDED is qual to SHOULD, right?
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Kev
Yes.
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Kev
Right. That's minutes done, at least.
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MattJ
I'm heading out, I should be back before the meeting, but if I'm not then I might be late. If I'm not late and don't make it at all then consider this a provisional apology :)
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Kev
Righty.
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Kev
How are people's reviews of 301 coming along? :)
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m&m
not /-:
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Kev
You should. It's a blast.
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Tobias
Kev, about 70% through
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Kev
Lovely :)
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MattJ
(I'm back by the way)
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MattJ
I want to implement 301
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Kev
In the server?
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MattJ
Verse
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MattJ
The PDF version is 43 pages!!!
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Kev
Remember that I've reviewed this many many times by now.
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Kev
You're getting off lightly :p
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Tobias
MattJ, last 3rd is just usecase/examples :)
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stpeter
howdy
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stpeter
yes, Kev provided lots of reviews on 301!
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Kev
Harpier cries "'tis time, 'tis time"
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Kev
1) Roll call.
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Kev
I'm here
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m&m
presente
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Tobias
here
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Kev
I have poked Ralph.
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MattJ
Here
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Kev
I don't think we have any voting items this meeting.
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Kev
stpeter: Were you able to persuade anyone that they should comment on reachability?
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stpeter
Kev: ah, that fell through the cracks
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stpeter
will do now
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Kev
Ta muchly.
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Kev
Did I miss any voting items?
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Kev
I have votes ready for several of the draft things, which I'll send to list.
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m&m
not that I can think of
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stpeter
I think not
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stpeter
fippo and I did update XEP-0220
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Kev
I'm hoping other people will complete their 301 reviews and save me doing a full review again :)
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Kev
On which topic, I'm starting to just give in just to get it over with.
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stpeter
I'll revew 301 again, too -- I've reviewed it only twice, not umpteen times like Kev ;-)
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Kev
Hopefully someone else has more energy and can see if it's ready and avoid me having to send my jaded views.
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stpeter
yes, fresh eyes will be helpful
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Kev
One of their responses that I didn't think the normatives were right was to change a SHOULD to a RECOMMENDED.
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stpeter
heh
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stpeter
yeah
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m&m
....
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Kev
And I don't really think SHOULD NOT is strong enough for not spamming someone when they've not confirmed support yet.
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m&m
at least a couple of us will review
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m&m
really! (-:
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Kev
I know they're keen to be allowed to just send RTT all the time to everyone because it's important to them, but I'm somewhat concerned that the reaction if that starts happening much is just to configure servers to block the payloads.
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stpeter
um, yeah
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MattJ
+1
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m&m
it's happened before
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Tobias
m&m, with what?
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m&m
there were some private servers I'm aware of that preventing disco to user accounts
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Kev
Anyway, I'm rambling.
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m&m
(before caps)
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Tobias
ah..ok
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m&m
and IBB has been prevented on some networks occasionally
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Kev
Next week is bad for me, but y'all can meet without me if you like.
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m&m
works for me
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MattJ
+1
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Tobias
+1
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Kev
I'd be very grateful if someone else would like to volunteer to write up minutes for this. I'm running at ~= mental capacity at the moment.
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m&m
sure, why not
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m&m
(-
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Kev
Thanks.
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Kev
Any other business?
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Kev
Is everyone intending re-running next year, or anyone having a rest (which sounds quite appealing right now)?
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stpeter
is the Jingle team going to come up with any recommendations? I suppose I'll poke that list...
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MattJ
Kev, I'm running, and I'm going to encourage a number of others too as well
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Kev
I don't know. We explicitly moved that away from being a Council responsibility because we didn't have time, I think :)
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stpeter
Kev: :-)
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Tobias
Kev, i'll probably too
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m&m
haven't decided
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stpeter
I'm always in favor of new faces / nicks
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m&m
/nod
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Kev
I'm undecided, partly because I think new blood is healthy, and partly because having applications while I'm exhausted isn't encouraging :)
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m&m
as far as current actions … I'm not sure I'd be able to get through the entire list of votes before the fortnight is up
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stpeter
Kev: I think you deserve a rest
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Kev
OK, AOB: Extending voting period on votes to draft for an extra week.
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Kev
+1
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stpeter
:)
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m&m
+1
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m&m
it's going to take a week just for −301 (-:
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Kev
Two days, usually, for me.
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Kev
MattJ / Tobias: ?
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Tobias
sure
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Kev
That's a majority, good enough.
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m&m
that moves the vote deadline to 2013-09-18
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Kev
m&m: That enough for you?
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MattJ
+1
- m&m adds a plethora of TODOs
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m&m
I think so, yes
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Kev
Marv.
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Kev
OK, AOAOB?
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m&m
for the XMPP-WG
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m&m
note that draft-moffitt-xmpp-websocket is to be an official WG item
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MattJ
Good to see websockets moving :)
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m&m
so, get those comments in!
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stpeter
yes, I need to provide more comments on that one
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Kev
m&m: I'd like to review and comment on this, but I don't think anyone should expect me to realisticallyget to it.
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m&m
completely understand
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m&m
as long as some of us here get through it
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Kev
Ta.
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Kev
OK, I think that's us done?
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m&m
yes
- stpeter stupidly committed to reviewing http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc2326bis-35 -- all 320 pages (!)
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Kanchil
stpeter: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc2326bis-35: draft-ietf-mmusic-rfc2326bis-35 - Real Time Streaming Protocol 2.0 (RTSP)
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MattJ
Oops
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m&m
ouch
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stpeter
I might need to retire from the AppsDir at the IETF
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Kev
stpeter: That was foolish.
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Kev
Commiserations.
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m&m
stpeter: isn't mmusic RAI?
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stpeter
oh and BTW the PRECIS specs are in Working Group Last Call
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Kev
Another 'should review but can't find time'.
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stpeter
yep
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Kev
OK, I think we're really done now :)
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stpeter
indeed
- stpeter packs up to drive to the office
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Kev
Thanks all.
- Kev bangs the gavel.
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Tobias
thanks
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MattJ
Thanks
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m&m
gracias