XMPP Council - 2013-10-02

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  43. stpeter

    ah nice, I found a room called "Solace" :-)

  44. ralphm


  45. m&m

    T - 5 minutes

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  47. Kev

    And ding.

  48. Kev

    1) Roll call.

  49. Kev

    I'm here!

  50. Tobias too

  51. m&m


  52. Tobias

    invited mattj

  53. Kev

    Tobias: By just dragging him to the window? :)

  54. ralphm


  55. Tobias

    Kev, how else would one do it? :)

  56. Kev


  57. Kev

    But in his absence...

  58. Kev

    2) XEP-0301. Move to Draft?

  59. Kev

    I think everyone's comments have now been addressed and this needs a revote.

  60. Kev

    And I need to give it a re-read first.

  61. stpeter

    it's the re-XEP -- review, revise, repost, reread

  62. m&m

    I did re-read, and I'm +1

  63. Kev


  64. Tobias

    i'm +1 too, my issue got addressed

  65. m&m

    I'm not going to nit any further; I'll send the list to the XEP editor

  66. m&m

    things like using typographer's quotes

  67. Kev

    m&m: Requiring them to change the English grammar for American was just harsh :p

  68. m&m

    super ultra mega minor

  69. m&m

    ASCII should have been good enough for everyone! (-:

  70. stpeter

    yeah I can clean up some of the minor issues

  71. Kev

    ralphm: ?

  72. ralphm

    Yeah, it looks good to me. +1

  73. Kev


  74. Kev

    I think that was our only voting item.

  75. Kev

    3) Date of next.

  76. m&m


  77. Kev


  78. stpeter updates http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xmpp-council/twelfth-council/ in real time

  79. Kanchil

    stpeter: http://xmpp.org/about-xmpp/xsf/xmpp-council/twelfth-council/: Twelfth Council – The XMPP Standards Foundation

  80. Kev

    4) AOB.

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  82. stpeter


  83. Kev

    I have an outstanding +1 from 297, which I'll leave here.

  84. m&m

    the Council and Board nominees are still light

  85. stpeter

    Kev: you are +1 on 297?

  86. Kev

    stpeter: Yes.

  87. stpeter

    Tobias: did you vote on 220?

  88. Tobias

    i'll add mine till the end of the week

  89. Tobias

    stpeter, didn't i reply on list?

  90. stpeter

    Tobias: maybe I missed it

  91. Kev

    Matt and Tobias both said they were intending standing for Council and haven't yet.

  92. Kev

    I don't recall, but I think Ralph said the same?

  93. ralphm


  94. m&m

    Lance still hasn't completed the form (-:

  95. m&m notes to pester him again

  96. Tobias

    stpeter, you even replied to the mail :)

  97. stpeter

    Tobias: ouch

  98. Tobias

    but you probably replied to a lot mails that day

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  100. stpeter

    ah, i see, yes

  101. stpeter

    n/m then

  102. Kev

    m&m: Were you suggesting there's something Council needs to do about the lists standing?

  103. m&m

    just make sure you fill out your nomination if you're running again

  104. m&m

    proxy voting starts in less than a fortnight!

  105. ralphm

    m&m: come on man, I still have 12 days!

  106. Kev

    OK. AOAOB?

  107. ralphm

    m&m: keeping things exciting

  108. stpeter

    voting tally updated again, will process those documents today

  109. m&m

    stpeter: thank you

  110. Kev

    stpeter: Thanks.

  111. stpeter

    sure thing

  112. Kev

    OK, we're done then?

  113. Kev

    Thanks all.

  114. stpeter

    seems so

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  116. m&m


  117. Tobias


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  121. stpeter

    Tobias: actually, I had advanced XEP-0220 but neglected to update the tally page ;-)

  122. stpeter

    I still don't know why I'm an author in 297 :P

  123. Kev

    I guess Matt added you.

  124. stpeter

    I guess I might remove myself ;-)

  125. Tobias


  126. Kev

    stpeter: You're an author because you added yourself in version 0.5, commit 67282456 :)

  127. Kev

    Although I suspect the diff was Matt's, given the changelog.

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  129. stpeter

    I wrote the schema

  130. stpeter

    but that's trivial

  131. Kev

    stpeter: If you /want/ to, you can fake other people's authorship of commits in Git.

  132. Kev

    So if people send you a patch, but you have to apply it, you can do so in their name.

  133. stpeter

    true, although I could fake a lot of stuff if I wanted to

  134. Kev

    I meant that this might be a useful thing to fake :)

  135. stpeter

    actually XEP-0297 is missing the registrar section

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  137. ralphm

    Kev: but wait, git has a feature that makes it possible to differentiate between author and committer. No need to fake.

  138. Kev

    ralphm: I don't think you're addressing the use case that I was suggesting.

  139. Kev

    The problem isn't knowing that it was Peter who pushed other people's Git patches. It's knowing who sent the diff when Peter has to apply a diff and create a git commit from it.

  140. Kev

    (Because people send Peter diffs, rather than the result of git format-patch)

  141. Kev

    If people send git format-patch, then all is well with the world.

  142. ralphm

    Kev: git commit --author

  143. Kev

    Indeed. Which is the faking of the author of a commit that I was suggesting Peter does.

  144. Kev

    It would have been quicker to say "I agree with Kev" :D

  145. ralphm

    that's not faking, that's setting the metadata properly

  146. ralphm

    see what I object to?

  147. ralphm

    you call it faking, I am saying this feature was explicitly created for this use case

  148. Kev

    Yes. You're agreeing with me, but arguing with the words I used to express the opinion you agree with :D

  149. ralphm

    Kev: yeah, that's what I do.

  150. ralphm

    Kev: should sound familiar :-D

  151. Kev

    As long as we're agreed on that.

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