XMPP Council - 2013-12-04

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08:39:14 Dave Cridland MattJ, I can also not remind you when the Council meeting doesn't happen, so you'll not get an extra reminder that you don't normally have. That should help.
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08:47:27 fippo dave, careful, otherwise i'll ask you to test the videobridge for the board meeting :-p
08:47:49 Dave Cridland You're suggesting it'll have the same effect?
08:51:19 fippo you can yell at matt ;-)
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08:52:31 Dave Cridland Well, I need to not yell at Matt. At precisely the right time.
08:52:39 Dave Cridland SO as long as it doesn't work, I could use that.
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09:33:44 fippo dave: i'm wondering whether I should my raise my hand...
09:34:46 Dave Cridland Depends whether you like writing position papers.
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09:37:29 fippo it depends more on whether I need more work ;-)
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09:47:14 Kev I'm fairly sure I don't need more work.
09:47:25 Kev Or, at least, I don't recognise what needing more work would look like.
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15:39:15 stpeter IIRC there is no Council meeting today, right?
15:40:01 Tobias right
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16:08:20 Kev Correct.
16:08:32 Kev Because I can't make it. Except I probably can, now, but I wasn't going to be able to.
16:09:18 Dave Cridland studiously doesn't remind MattJ
16:09:39 MattJ Thanks so much
16:09:45 Kev Oh, you've done that too.
16:09:48 Kev I sent a PM :)
16:12:16 bear Lance is on a plane to Denver, but that is a moot point as the meeting was already not scheduled
16:12:30 stpeter Lance is going to be in Denver?
16:12:40 stpeter it's snowing like crazy here, I hope he can land
16:15:03 stpeter works on the UPnP liaison agreement
16:15:23 bear it's a stop on his way back home
16:16:29 stpeter good luck to Lance, then!
16:17:00 stpeter it seems that the Council and Board will need to name some liaisons soon
16:17:13 stpeter UPnP, ISO TC 122, IEC TC 57
16:18:49 Peter Waher I volunteer. I already work with Craig in ISO TC 122, and was invited to take part in the UPnP WG as well. (Just have to sign and file the 22 page membership contract.)
16:21:39 stpeter the liaison agreement is only 10 pages :P
16:22:15 Peter Waher :)
16:22:44 Dave Cridland We should probably call for some volunteers, actually, lest we end up with only the usual suspects.
16:22:49 stpeter nods
16:23:14 Kev I think some of the usual suspects would be appropriate.
16:23:42 stpeter heh
16:23:46 Kev (Not saying exclusively)
16:29:36 Dave Cridland Kev, Right, it's more to see if someone interesting crawls from the proverbial woodwork.
16:29:50 Dave Cridland Not saying the usual suspects aren't interesting, of course.
16:32:50 Peter Waher will there be a council meeting today?
16:33:07 stpeter Peter Waher: none scheduled
16:33:30 Peter Waher ok, is it scheduled for next week?
16:33:32 fippo thought it might be worth mentioning http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/stox/current/msg00397.html -- i basically volunteered an hour ago
16:33:54 stpeter Peter Waher: yes
16:34:15 Peter Waher (y)
16:34:23 stpeter fippo: volunteered for reviewing the specs? I thought you already reviewed them...
16:34:42 fippo stpeter: you know I always find new errors (-:
16:34:56 stpeter yeah, you're good at that
16:35:18 Peter Waher ok, are there any questions or comments regarding the eventlogging or dynamic forms proposals?
16:35:39 Peter Waher somebody mentioned they would return comments on the dynamic forms proposal on list, during last meeting
16:37:27 stpeter fippo pointed out the namespace issue, and also with XEP-0331, but we can fix those easily
16:37:42 fippo right. and with those fixed i'm +1
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16:44:06 Peter Waher "namespace issue"?
16:44:13 Peter Waher Must have missed a mail
16:44:49 stpeter Peter Waher: we don't mint jabber.org namespaces any longer
16:45:06 stpeter http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2013-December/028313.html
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16:46:38 Peter Waher ah, ok
16:46:56 Peter Waher What namespaces should I use?
16:47:02 Peter Waher "I will work with the authors to mint proper XMPP URNs for these extensions."
16:47:06 fippo ah, I didn't cc standards@
16:47:52 stpeter Peter Waher: urn:xmpp:foo stuff - see XEP-0053
16:49:00 Peter Waher so: "urn:xmpp:xdata-color" ok?
16:49:12 Peter Waher and "urn:xmpp:xdata-dynamic" ?
16:49:22 Peter Waher or do you prefer a : instead of - ?
16:49:38 stpeter those would be fine
16:49:48 Peter Waher "urn:xmpp:xdata:color" and "urn:xmpp:xdata:dynamic" ?
16:50:27 stpeter I don't think it particularly matters whether we use "-" or ":"
16:50:34 Peter Waher (y)
16:50:53 Peter Waher I'll update the proposals and send them to the list
16:50:57 Peter Waher Anything else?
16:51:02 stpeter see http://xmpp.org/registrar/namespaces.html
16:51:13 Dave Cridland I wonder if -%29 is legal as a URN segment.
16:51:17 stpeter I have the slightest preference for ':'
16:51:27 stpeter since we do that for some of the jingle namespaces
16:51:54 Peter Waher (y)
16:52:01 Tobias yup..consistency would be nice
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