XMPP Council - 2014-01-14


  1. Kev

    OK, http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/jingle-dtls.html (surely this should be called jingle-srtp?) is confusing me.

  2. Kev

    It's not at all clear to me if that sctpmap element is proposing an additional candidate using SCTP at the IP layer, or if it's saying that when the two proposed UDP candidates are tried, SCTP should be tried over UDP.

  3. fippo

    jingle-dtls-sctp probably

  4. Kev

    (Because SCTP will either work at the transport layer or tunnelled over UDP, right?)

  5. fippo

    in the context of webrtc it's sctp/udp authenticated via dtls fingerprints

  6. Kev

    So the sctpmap element in this case is saying "Try the existing candidates, but tunnel SCTP over them".

  7. fippo

    yeah, that's the plan

  8. Kev

    Which wasn't at all clear to me from the times I read it (I assumed as much, given it should have been its own candidate otherwise, but ...).

  9. Kev

    In which case, how does this play with having multiple candidates?

  10. fippo

    the tricky issue is that this will often be BUNDLE'd with srtp

  11. Kev

    Is there any reason I shouldn't be able to offer both SCTP/DTLS/UDP candidates, and TCP candidates?

  12. Kev

    Well, that's not remotely possible given the structure of the transport mechanism, is it?

  13. fippo

    you think this shoudldn't be part of <transport/>

  14. Kev

    I'm saying no such thing.

  15. Kev

    I'm asking questions.

  16. fippo

    you make me wonder...

  17. fippo

    if it makes more sense to put the sctpmap to the 0234 part

  18. Kev

    The first thing I'm wondering is whether it's possible to implement from just this protoXEP, without already knowing what the author means :)

  19. Kev

    Although we've published un-implementable Experimentals before, as a statement of direction, so that's not a blocker.

  20. Kev

    I'm going to OK this, but I'm not quite sure yet that it's the right way to do it (nor am I sure otherwise), I lack prerequisite knowledge.

  21. fippo

    we'll see

  22. fippo

    i'm pretty eager to see a pull request for strophe.jingle :-)