XMPP Council - 2014-01-15

  1. Kev

    Ah. And then I notice that Dave had already made a comment about TCP fallback on-list.

  2. Lance

    Kev: i'm not entirely sure if i'll be able to join the meeting, given insomnia + utc-8

  3. Kev

    Lance: OK, thanks.

  4. Zash

    Have some UTF-8 instead? :)

  5. Kev

    I'd have thought a Council meeting would be a great cure for insomnia :D

  6. Lance

    but mark me as -1 on the user-auth proposal, and will officially vote/give feedback on list

  7. Lance

    zash you have no idea how many times i get those confused when typing

  8. Kev

    Lance: OK, thanks.

  9. Zash

    Lance, hehe :)

  10. Tobias

    brb..just grabbing a coffee

  11. MattJ

    and thanks for reminding me

  12. MattJ

    seems my s2s broke, and I got: 15:58:22 message received for a non-existing room: council@muc.xmpp.org

  13. Kev

    Here we go again.

  14. Kev

    1) Bread products!

  15. Kev

    I'm here

  16. MattJ

    Me too

  17. Tobias


  18. Lance

    sleep's overrated. here

  19. Kev

    fippo: ?

  20. Kev

    Lance: Welcome.

  21. fippo

    kev: pong

  22. Kev


  23. Kev

    Just one thing today, I think.

  24. Kev

    2) http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/user-auth.html Accept?

  25. Kev

    And as Lance has pre-rejected it, this could be short :)

  26. fippo

    will vote on list, I need to take a closer look

  27. Tobias needs to give it a read too, yet

  28. MattJ

    I read it a while back... the title is misleading :)

  29. Kev

    I read it, and I'm -1 as I don't understand exactly what's authenticating what, and where the two factors are coming from.

  30. MattJ

    I agree, it's confusing

  31. Kev

    It could be that with a stronger early explanation it'd make sense to me.

  32. MattJ


  33. MattJ

    I haven't seen Lance's feedback

  34. Kev

    But as Lance offered to write stuff to list once he's more awake, I'm happy to leave that to him :D

  35. Lance

    this is just a way to send back some challenge, say an sms code you received

  36. Lance

    authenticating yourself to a peer jid

  37. Dave Cridland

    The examples gave two full jids of the same account. Is this to protect against rogue servers?

  38. MattJ

    No, I think it's like out-of-band authentication of JIDs for ad-hoc commands and such

  39. Kev

    I don't think anyone's actively disagreeing that rejecting it until it's a bit clearer what the objectives are is a bad plan though, are they?

  40. Tobias

    I'm not

  41. Kev

    So I think we're onto:

  42. Kev

    3) Date of next

  43. Kev


  44. MattJ


  45. Tobias


  46. Lance


  47. fippo

    wfm, too

  48. Kev


  49. Kev

    4) AOB?

  50. Tobias

    none here

  51. Kev

    Marvellous. Gives us a good stretch until the Board meeting tehn.

  52. Kev

    Thanks all

  53. Kev bangs the gavel.

  54. stpeter


  55. stpeter

    hey, are we starting at the top of the hour now?

  56. Dave Cridland

    stpeter, Missed it by a second.

  57. Zash


  58. Dave Cridland

    stpeter, Yeah, they discussed that last week.

  59. Lance

    oh, right. Kev peter has calls for volunteers i think

  60. stpeter

    forgot about that

  61. Tobias

    let's see what the calendar says.....

  62. Zash

    To the archives!

  63. Kev

    stpeter: Yep, I think I even minuted it :)

  64. Dave Cridland

    stpeter, Actually spent more on that than any other item, I think. :-)

  65. stpeter


  66. stpeter reads http://logs.xmpp.org/council/140115/

  67. Kev

    stpeter: Did you have anything you wanted us to agendaicise?

  68. stpeter

    Kev: I think not (yet)

  69. stpeter

    how IIRC I do need to issue a new Last Call on XEP-0152

  70. stpeter


  71. Kev

    Unless you think the XEP Editor team can get up and running particularly fast, possibly :)

  72. stpeter


  73. stpeter

    perhaps not *that* fast

  74. stpeter

    it will be great to have a team for this

  75. stpeter

    should've done it a long time ago

  76. Kev


  77. Kev

    (Great to have)

  78. stpeter

    heh, I like that word :-)