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do we have a meeting today? is there an agenda?
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Kev
We do, and...there will be within the next 6 minutes.
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Kev
Odd. I was sure there was something, but I've not noted it.
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Kev
Ah. I think it's that I was expecting the Editor team to ask for a vote on BOSH, but I don't think that team's off the ground yet.
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Kev
Or, possibly, because there seems to be continuing discussion about BOSH on the list.
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Kev
Well, I don't think we have anything for this week, then, but let's start anyway.
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Kev
1) Roll call.
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Kev
I'm here.
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Kev
Matt sent apologies.
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Lance
here
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Tobias
here
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Kev
fippo?
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here
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Kev
Before we jump straight to Date, anyone know of anything we need to vote on (BOSH notwithstanding, that I'm not sure of the state of).
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fippo
i think there was a new version of the two factor auth...?
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Kev
Hmm. I don't see a mail about that in my inbox.
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fippo
http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2014-February/028547.html
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fippo
i don't think it was officially submitted to the editor though
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Kev
Ah, not a submission yet, then.
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Dave Cridland
Kev, As an AOB of sorts, I'd appreciate any views Council has on the Editor team being gathered for the Board.
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Kev
Dave Cridland: Not understood, but noted.
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Kev
OK.
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Kev
2) Date of next meeting.
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Kev
SBTSBC?
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Lance
wfm
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Tobias
wfm
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fippo
i'm unavailable next week
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Kev
Matt expects to be back next week, so that makes four. fippo: Would you rather we didn't meet without you?
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Kev
Otherwise I'd suggest we just go on and you vote on list.
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Lance
for aob i do have a question on a xep-30 clarification
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fippo
kev: go ahead, i'll vote on the list if there is anything.
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Kev
Fab
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Kev
3) AOB.
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Kev
Dave Cridland: What is it you want thoughts on?
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Dave Cridland
Are there any from Council?
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Kev
On what?
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Kev
The Editor team is a Done Deal isn't it?
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Dave Cridland
It should be setting itself up; I was thinking in terms of whether it's adequately doing so. I imagine it's too early to tell yet.
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Kev
I assume that nothing's happened yet, I could be wrong.
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fippo
the first meeting hasn't happened yet, or did i miss that?
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Dave Cridland
I didn't *think* anything had happened.
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Dave Cridland
But I'm on my travels, so I wasn't sure.
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Kev
I think not.
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Kev
So we done with that item?
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Dave Cridland
Sounds like it.
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Dave Cridland
I'll check back next week.
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Kev
(I'm also waiting to see the charter of the UPnP team, so I can call for volunteers, but that's not really relevant here)
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Kev
Lance: You're up.
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Lance
So in XEP-0030 for requesting disco items without specifiying a node
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Lance
it says 'The target entity then MUST either return its list of publicly-available items, or return an error'
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Lance
however, publicly-available is ambiguous
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Lance
does that mean all top-level items, or the full entire hierarchy of items
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Lance
because if the latter, that eliminates the whole point of tree walking
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Kev
Ah. I'm assuming we're talking direct children only, if we take the tree metaphor.
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Kev
This is consistent with how MUC works. You query c.j.o to find rooms, you query jdev@cjo to see who's in it.
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Lance
that's what i thought, but i had someone submit a patch to sleek that pulled in *everything* when no node is listed, citing this bit
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Dave Cridland
I always assumed and implemented it as a first level search.
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Lance
since child nodes are still 'publicly-accessible'
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Lance
ok, any objections to me sending a patch to clarify that sentence?
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Kev
None here.
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Kev
And with that, I think we're done?
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Dave Cridland
I think if we were expecting the full heirarchy to be returned, that wouldn't work when the tree crosses jid boundaries.
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fippo
i think first-level was what made sense in the old jabberd1 architecture. not so much with more tightly integrated servers
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Kev
I think, in any case, that seeing the patch would be a sensible start.
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Kev
Unless fippo's saying he's fundamentally opposed to what I think is a clarification.
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Kev
Not that I'm leading the discussion at all there...
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fippo
not opposed, +1 on a patch
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Kev
Fab. Lance: Let's see the patch :)
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Kev
I think there's NOAOB, so...
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Kev
bangs the gavel.
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Kev
Thanks all.
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Tobias
thanks Kev
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