XMPP Council - 2016-05-04

it is time

0) Roll call

Peter sends apologies

Tobias MattJ

here

1) ProtoXEP: XMPP Compliance Suites 2016 - Accept as Experimental? <http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/compliance2016.html>

+1

Here

+1

I'll vote on list for this one

+1

2) Date of next

sbtsbc?

wfm

I'm going to assume sbtsbc works for everyone else

3) AOB

none here

Curious about proposed xeps

There are 8 in this state

None here

Why?

I think from what I've seen each differs as to reason

It would be nice if there was a simple way to track them

8? Where did you get that list?

On the extensions page

Only checking Proposed

I think there's only one person who actually knows how to update them, also no good way to track the pipeline.

So, well, maybe look into that :-)

Oh. *that* Proposed.

I always get confused between that and ProtoXEP. :-/

AFAIK you should either reject them or accept as draft

Keeping them in limbo is confusing

ralphm, Right - but that actual list isn't being updated properly.

Why not?

ralphm, See SamWhited's comment above.

We lack proper tools?

Yah, really we should have CI deploying that so that we don't *have* to know how to do it.

it is updated

twice a day

And is that on Council or Editors

It is? I'm pretty sure you have to go in and manually update right now

SamWhited, nope

Tobias: the status of XEPs is?

is what's listed in the XEP's XML

Oh rendering

So it's the XML source that's not being updated?

https://github.com/xsf/xeps/blob/master/xep-0280.xml#L13

Tobias: What is updating it twice a day? Cron job? CI? Where does that live?

for example

SamWhited, a cron job on our servers

Regardless, we have 8 xeps marked as proposed that we need to sort out

I'll go find that; thanks.

Indeed

yeah..so all that's needs fixing is the xml

I'll email the xep authors to check that LC feedback was addressed

Also an accepted but not published one

(PAM)

and we can vote on any that need voting next meeting

AOAOB?

Besides PAM, no

thanks ralphm :)

thanks all

thx Lance

Always a pleasure to pass around work

Thanks all

ralphm, Management, now, eh?

*oops* didn't even realize the meeting was still going on; thought I'd missed it.

Add two more accepted but not published XEPs to the list: OX and OX-IM

🙌

Yah, if auto update is already happening I think we just need to update the editor readme to reflect that and get some tooling in place (Trello or Jira?) to track the pipeline

yeah..and the editor team probably should assign numbers to accepted XEPs and put them in the https://github.com/xsf/xeps repo

ralphm: btw, one of those xeps is procedural, so Board will need to approve it :)

Gonna go assign one for the compliance suites right now so I can see if it actually gets auto updated later; I'm still skeptical :) Pretty sure I've merged things before that weren't updated until Ash went and manually did the update

Lance, I'm sure we did, but will check

Right, dwd?

SamWhited, i've set up a cronjob nearly two months ago that runs a script https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/blob/master/buildCompleteWebsite.sh, this builds the website and all XEPs and the table of xeps and all

Tobias: Thanks! Would you be willing to update XEP-README with your changes? :)

Council question: Short name for the compliance suites?

cs2016?

wfm

SamWhited, i could do that

although this was just a quick fix

Tobias: Thanks! Good to have these sorts of things documented either way