XMPP Council - 2016-05-25

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  55. Lance

    it is time

  56. Lance

    0) Roll call

  57. Dave Cridland


  58. Lance

    Tobias MattJ psa Dave Cridland

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  60. Tobias


  61. SamWhited is not here to take notes again; sorry. Poorly timed meetings.

  62. ralphm


  63. Dave Cridland

    ralphm, You're three years late.

  64. Lance

    1) ProtoXEP: http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/spam-report.html

  65. Lance

    I'm +1

  66. Tobias

    will vote on list

  67. MattJ


  68. MattJ

    +1 :)

  69. Dave Cridland

    +1, though I think it needs work.

  70. MattJ

    Dave Cridland, I look forward to your feedback

  71. MattJ

    I think it's good as it is

  72. Lance


  73. Dave Cridland

    You don't have it? I thought I'd sent to the list.

  74. MattJ

    Oh, I guess I missed it

  75. psa

    I'm not sure how it interacts with / replaces http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0287.html

  76. psa

    but I can post to the list about it

  77. Lance


  78. Lance

    2) http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/userrating.html

  79. MattJ

    This one I think needs more work, but I'm +1 to experimental

  80. Tobias

    will vote on list

  81. psa

    (I see that Matthew already replied to the query about XEP-0287 so I'm +1 to publishing spam-report)

  82. psa

    and userrating also replaces http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0275.html

  83. psa

    I see that we're in reinvent the wheel mode :-)

  84. Dave Cridland

    Ah, I'm confused.

  85. psa

    I will post to the list about userrating

  86. Dave Cridland

    It'#s user rating I sent feedback on, not spam reporting.

  87. MattJ

    Ah, ok

  88. Lance

    i'll vote on list as well for userrating

  89. Lance

    3) Date of next

  90. Dave Cridland

    Maybe I should actually look at both in the light of 287/275 and see whether this is just a duplication or if it's introducing something genuinely new.

  91. psa

    on first view I see some overlap between 275 and userrating

  92. psa

    perhaps some combination is in order

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  94. Lance

    Date of next, sbtsbc?

  95. Tobias

    Lance, wfm

  96. psa


  97. Tobias

    btw: who moves things from https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pulls on our agenda?

  98. MattJ


  99. Lance

    4) AOB?

  100. psa

    Tobias: maybe our Chair?

  101. psa

    no AOB except Tobias's question

  102. Lance

    that'd be me

  103. MattJ

    psa, Dave Cridland: User Rating definitely has some overlap with XEP-0275

  104. Tobias


  105. MattJ

    No AOB here

  106. Dave Cridland

    No AOB.

  107. Tobias

    no further aob here

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  109. Lance

    thanks all

  110. Tobias

    thx Lance

  111. Dave Cridland

    MattJ, Overlap is OK. Complete replacement is OK. But only if we think 275/287 is a dead-end technically.

  112. MattJ

    As mentioned on the list, I don't think Spam Reporting has much overlap with XEP-0287

  113. SamWhited

    👍 will publish the reporting one and the outstanding jingle PR when I'm next at my desk.

  114. Lance

    a more accurate title would be User Blocking Annotations

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  116. Tobias

    SamWhited, there's also a XEP-300 PR

  117. MattJ

    Yeah, I think the title could be improved for clarity

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  120. SamWhited

    Anyone have ideas for a shortname for the spam reporting one?

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  123. Dave Cridland

    Do we really use shortnames?

  124. SamWhited

    They're in there, so I assumed we should create one but I have no idea what it's actually for ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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  126. ralphm

    Because mam or pubsub is better than typing out the full xep title

  127. ralphm

    And settling on a single short name is useful

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  132. Zash

    I remember something about shortnames being assigned when it's draft or somesuch

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  156. Tobias

    Lance, where did I +1 for spam reports? i said i'll vote on list ;)

  157. Lance

    woops. sorry about that, misread lines :(

  158. Tobias

    no problem :)

  159. Flow

    SamWhited: Smack uses shortnames as part of the java package scheme of the API. I've already requested the editor to keep a registry of shortnames to keep them unique. That would be really great.

  160. Flow also thinks that shortnames should be assigned in 'experimental' (but i could not found an official policy on that or if they need to be unique)

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  167. MattJ

    Yep, shortnames are really useful

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  171. SamWhited

    Yah, short names sound good to me. I don't know that anyone is handling registrar stuff right now?

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