XMPP Council - 2016-06-15

I finally remembered to update my calendar to show the meeting at quarter past the hour.

it is time

0) Roll call

Not yet. You're a whole 20 seconds early.

welp

There we go.

here

MattJ?

1) Advance Carbons to Draft

I think its time to move this one forward

+1

+1.

i've implemented it a couple days ago for Swift, works nice

+1

2) Date of next

sbtsbc?

wfm

Please do me a favor and file an issue on the xeps repo or something for the editors if we need to move carbons forward; thanks!

SamWhited: will do, thanks!

3) AOB?

Same time is good.

none here

There's some stuff about IoT floating about.

what stuff?

Someone's emailed Board about it, and Arc noted that there's a few parallel (and incompatible) IoT suites using XMPP.

It'd be interesting to try and spark a discussion about IoT on standards - but I have to admit the subject doesn't interest me a huge amount, so if anyone else wants to try to lead a discussion that'd be awesome.

Late +1 for Carbons

Thanks MattJ

Dave Cridland: what would that conversation be about, exactly?

The other thing is I've noticed a couple of Internet Drafts knocking about using XMPP; I'm beginning to wonder about talking with the IETF/IESG about a formal liasion process to try an give these a reasonable amount of exposure and review.

Lance, "IoT. Great, innit?"

Dave Cridland, how many of the incompatible suites are standardized by the XSF?

Lance, Mostly trying to find out whether people like those specs, and if not, what are they using.

MattJ, None. The IoT XEPs aren't standards yet. :-)

Dave Cridland, because these internet drafts people won't come to the XSF, so we need to come to them?

Tobias, I don't know they're aware, mostly.

Tobias, I might just ask Alexey to nudge them our way.

ah.ok

Anything actionable for council then?

doesn't look like it

Lance, Probably not, as long as people don't object to me looking at the IETF thing?

Please do, that would be helpful

thanks all

thank you

and pending peter's +1, congrats to all for a new draft xep

Yay

hey sorry, I'm at a conference manning a booth and it all started a bit earlier than expected this morning

it would be nice if http://xmpp.org/about/xmpp-standards-foundation#council had links to the mailing list archives and room logs - will generate a pull request

I will review the Carbons XEP and post on list

re IoT, I am working in that area now (not using XMPP, though!) so I can provide some input

Dave Cridland: regarding the XMPP-related work in the IETF, I'd be happy tp reach out to the relevant ADs

Dave Cridland: in general, the IETF prefers not to set up a formal liaison relationship unless things are broken; perhaps they're broken right now, but I think not irreparably

psa, I think it's just L3VPN (who have some reviews now anyway, so moot point) and MILE, but it's worth reminding the IESG that reviews are available and will be enthusiastically given.

Dave Cridland: totally agree