XMPP Council - 2016-11-02

it is time

0) Roll call

I was afraid of that :)

DST

here

Here

Peter sends apologies

Or is passively here, anyways.

Reminders that we have XEP-0300 and XEP-0371 out last call comments.

1) Accept as experimental? http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/omemo.html

i should probably wait until that LC-0300 has ended with the updates for it, right?

will vote on list for 1)

Tobias right

OMEMO has been updated to reference Olm. I'm +1 for the new version

looking forward to reading it

2) Accept as experimental? http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/spoiler.html

will vote on list for 2)

I'm +1 for this one too. It looks to be getting good feedback on list, so that's exciting

3) XEP-0198: Send 'a' element before stream closure https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/263

+1 again, the change is sensible

+1

Wait

I'll vote on list

makes sense...+1 on that

MattJ that was for 3) ?

Yeah

Sorry, had a call and got confused

4) XEP-0060: include publisher with any item retrieval https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/267/files

On-list for items 1-3

I'm +1

+1

+1

5) Accept as experimental? https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/burner.html

will vote on list on 5)

I'll also vote on list for this one

Me too. There were some questions raised on the list that I'm not sure were resolved (or I haven't caught up yet)

6) The Council needs to name leaders for the proposed IoT SIG.

This was added by Peter. Anyone have suggestions?

do we have suggestions for possible candidates? are they required to be XSF members?

We probably need Peter around for this one to answer those questions :/

ok

7) Date of next

Next week the US will be on DST, so timing will be consistent again :)

wfm

why did you guys wait a week for DST?

This would be the final meeting of the term. Today's is the last meeting for new items for voting.

8) AOB?

There are outstanding votes on this card (Dave, Lance, Matt); were they ever submitted? https://trello.com/c/Ilh8CpaH/114-xep-0045-define-option-name-for-enabling-disabling-mam

I dont think they were. I'll add my +1

Hmm, I thought there was already a -1 on that one

I thought consensus was that things like this should go into the registry instead of updating '45

Is s xep required to add to registry ?

Good question. I don't think so, though

I dont think we recorded an official -1, should I mark you as -1 then MattJ?

Thanks. On that note, should cards for things with a -1 be archived?

I'll vote on list with the other items this week, sorry it slipped through

I want to review the discussion we had around it

Ta

AOAOB?

none here

AOAOB: I would also appreciate a review of https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/274 from the council; I don't *think* it changes anything, but I feel weird touching xep-0001 without making sure

The approving body for XEP-0001 is the Board IIRC

Oh; I suppose that makes sense. Will move that to their agenda then. Thanks.

Thanks all

Last thing from me (sorry): Reminder that there are three things in last call. That can wait until next week, I just wanted to make sure I proded so the two weeks doesn't end without discussion.

Thanks SamWhited

No discussion needed this week necessarily; I just wanted to make sure I brought it up while everyone was in the room :)

What are the three things? Are they shows in Trello?

*shown

MattJ: Yah, they should have cards in Trello. EXI, 0371, and 0300

k, thanks

There has been some list discussion of 0371 and 0300 at least.

The EXI last call is actually a very old one. Not sure what to do about that.

So maybe there are actually two things in last call, and one thing (EXI) that the editor would like guidance on :) I'm probably going to just move it back to experimental unless someone tells me otherwise.

Sounds sensible

One more thing if anyone is still here (sorry, every time there's an editor backlog it turns into me dumping a ton of stuff on council all at once when I get around to trying to catch up): for draft XEPs I need to get council approval for changes, but is that true for registrar stuff as well?

(specifically, do I need to get council votes on https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/257/files)

XEP-0001 suggests no, at least, in my interpretation because the changes aren't material, but it also says ultimate authority for draft XEPs rests with the council, so I figured I'd ask.

http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0053.html

oh hey, there's a whole separate thing for registrar stuff; thanks

Seems like the Registrar has a lot of freedom over registries. Can add things at their discretion, defering to the list and council as they deem necessary

Sounds good to me; I'll get that merged as soon as possible.

Thanks. :)

Not sure how attend-y I'll be today. In Italy on a train to Rome.

Dave Cridland: For what?

Council? Or not? Come to think of it I didn't look to see if we were meeting.

Or have I been eaten by timezones...

timezones

You have

Off-by-DST error

Oh, did you peg the meeting time to utc?

Can someone with GitHub permissions give the "XEP Editors" team access to the registrar repo? I thought I had it before, but now I can't merge changes.

cc bear, Kev who appear to be the admins

SamWhited I can do that

SamWhited XEP Editors team now has write access to xsf/registrar

bear: Thanks!

yvw

Time to get this entity caps stuff sorted.

bear: one more thing: Is it possible to give the team permission to create labels on that repo?

oh gosh, ignore me; the create button just isn't where I expected it to be.

doesn't write have that - if not i'll make them admin's

:)