XMPP Council - 2017-10-04

Hi folks, just FYI, I won't be able to take minutes for the next 3 weeks (today and the next two meetings). I'm both moving house and going to a mountain retreat in Switserland.

Well, one after the other TBH

Ack, thanks for the notice. :)

Thanks for the heads up; enjoy the retreat, wish I were in the mountains instead of sitting at my desk…

I'm jealous!

I went to the sea last week, it was a very welcome retreat. :)

Especially without any computer!

Damn. I forgot to forget my android device on my last holiday.

:)

Oh I forgot to mention this. I just boarded my flight to the US. So I won't make it today.

And probably I won't make it next week either

daniel: it was nice to have known you.

I guess now is a good time to read last week’s minutes. :-°

I wanted to re-submit my request to burn GC1.0 with fire, but instead I wrote a really really long mail about MUC self-pings.

Bummer.

I think we should under no circumstances make incompatible changes without a namespace bump

Can someone do a survey of whether GC1.0 is even used?

Hi, SamWhited, Tobias, dwd, are you here?

Hi folks.

here

yup

Perfect, we are all here, daniel said he wouldn’t be able to attend.

ok

shall we run though the agenda then?

1) Roll call

seems everybody except daniel is there

2) Minute taker

jcbrand, are you available?

jcbrand said he would not be avilable for the next few weeks

ah..ok

I can do it

thanks

SamWhited, what's the state of https://trello.com/c/wi8fgSfa/180-compare-and-publish-pubsub-items-protoxep ?

I don't actually remember what that card means; it appears to be in the inbox?

Flow, ping

Oh, I think the email never went out maybe and that's what the card is for? The comments seem to suggest that.

Tobias: I've an update version according to the list feedback on geekplace.eu/xeps

and plan to submit it by the end of the week (I wanted to wait for some more feedback)

So can we wait and add a new card when that happens and then vote on it?

okido

As a usual rant: I have no idea why we're encouraging discussion of non-XSF documents.

dwd: I think we were supposed to vote on accepting it as an XSF document, but it never happened because the announcement email didn't get sent

Right, but some day we'll get stung badly because of this.

i'll just archived the card...so if it's submitted again we create a new one

3) ODR / OMEMO

does anybody know anything about the state of this

?

Was it the one with the split of the current OMEMO XEP into an historical one and a better one?

i think so

https://trello.com/b/ww7zWMlI/xmpp-council-agenda this card

i think we should call out to the standard ML on this topic

will write a mail there

4) Next meeting

same time next week

?

Wfm.

alright

2017-10-11T1500Z

5) AOB?

SamWhited, there was an announcement mail

2017-08-24

it was discussed, not accepted by council, flow revised and that’s where we’re at

ah, thanks

I don’t know how to send announcement mails for updated protoxeps, I don’t think the process™ knows about that

which is kindof what dwd said.

AOB: reminder that council elections are coming up: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Board_and_Council_Elections_2017

jonasw, just the same announcement mail again, mentioning version ,etc.

would be my suggestion

wonder who that Joe Demo guy is...never heard of him :P

any further AOB?

doesn't look like it

thanks everybody

SamWhited, thanks for the minutes

we have logs again, thanks to whoever did that

woah

amazing :)

I’d like to throw in a reminder that people need to vote on https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/500