XMPP Council - 2017-10-04

  1. jcbrand

    Hi folks, just FYI, I won't be able to take minutes for the next 3 weeks (today and the next two meetings). I'm both moving house and going to a mountain retreat in Switserland.

  2. jcbrand

    Well, one after the other TBH

  3. Link Mauve

    Ack, thanks for the notice. :)

  4. SamWhited

    Thanks for the heads up; enjoy the retreat, wish I were in the mountains instead of sitting at my desk…

  5. SamWhited

    I'm jealous!

  6. Link Mauve

    I went to the sea last week, it was a very welcome retreat. :)

  7. Link Mauve

    Especially without any computer!

  8. Ge0rG

    Damn. I forgot to forget my android device on my last holiday.

  9. jcbrand


  10. daniel

    Oh I forgot to mention this. I just boarded my flight to the US. So I won't make it today.

  11. daniel

    And probably I won't make it next week either

  12. Ge0rG

    daniel: it was nice to have known you.

  13. Link Mauve

    I guess now is a good time to read last week’s minutes. :-°

  14. Ge0rG

    I wanted to re-submit my request to burn GC1.0 with fire, but instead I wrote a really really long mail about MUC self-pings.

  15. Ge0rG


  16. Flow

    I think we should under no circumstances make incompatible changes without a namespace bump

  17. Zash

    Can someone do a survey of whether GC1.0 is even used?

  18. Link Mauve

    Hi, SamWhited, Tobias, dwd, are you here?

  19. dwd

    Hi folks.

  20. Tobias


  21. SamWhited


  22. Link Mauve

    Perfect, we are all here, daniel said he wouldn’t be able to attend.

  23. Tobias


  24. Tobias

    shall we run though the agenda then?

  25. Tobias

    1) Roll call

  26. Tobias

    seems everybody except daniel is there

  27. Tobias

    2) Minute taker

  28. Tobias

    jcbrand, are you available?

  29. SamWhited

    jcbrand said he would not be avilable for the next few weeks

  30. Tobias


  31. SamWhited

    I can do it

  32. Tobias


  33. Tobias

    SamWhited, what's the state of https://trello.com/c/wi8fgSfa/180-compare-and-publish-pubsub-items-protoxep ?

  34. SamWhited

    I don't actually remember what that card means; it appears to be in the inbox?

  35. Tobias

    Flow, ping

  36. SamWhited

    Oh, I think the email never went out maybe and that's what the card is for? The comments seem to suggest that.

  37. Flow

    Tobias: I've an update version according to the list feedback on geekplace.eu/xeps

  38. Flow

    and plan to submit it by the end of the week (I wanted to wait for some more feedback)

  39. SamWhited

    So can we wait and add a new card when that happens and then vote on it?

  40. Tobias


  41. dwd

    As a usual rant: I have no idea why we're encouraging discussion of non-XSF documents.

  42. SamWhited

    dwd: I think we were supposed to vote on accepting it as an XSF document, but it never happened because the announcement email didn't get sent

  43. dwd

    Right, but some day we'll get stung badly because of this.

  44. Tobias

    i'll just archived the card...so if it's submitted again we create a new one

  45. Tobias

    3) ODR / OMEMO

  46. Tobias

    does anybody know anything about the state of this

  47. Tobias


  48. Link Mauve

    Was it the one with the split of the current OMEMO XEP into an historical one and a better one?

  49. Tobias

    i think so

  50. Tobias

    https://trello.com/b/ww7zWMlI/xmpp-council-agenda this card

  51. Tobias

    i think we should call out to the standard ML on this topic

  52. Tobias

    will write a mail there

  53. Tobias

    4) Next meeting

  54. Tobias

    same time next week

  55. Tobias


  56. Link Mauve


  57. Tobias


  58. SamWhited


  59. Tobias

    5) AOB?

  60. jonasw

    SamWhited, there was an announcement mail

  61. jonasw


  62. jonasw

    it was discussed, not accepted by council, flow revised and that’s where we’re at

  63. SamWhited

    ah, thanks

  64. jonasw

    I don’t know how to send announcement mails for updated protoxeps, I don’t think the process™ knows about that

  65. jonasw

    which is kindof what dwd said.

  66. SamWhited

    AOB: reminder that council elections are coming up: https://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Board_and_Council_Elections_2017

  67. Tobias

    jonasw, just the same announcement mail again, mentioning version ,etc.

  68. Tobias

    would be my suggestion

  69. Tobias

    wonder who that Joe Demo guy is...never heard of him :P

  70. Tobias

    any further AOB?

  71. Tobias

    doesn't look like it

  72. Tobias bangs the gavel

  73. Tobias

    thanks everybody

  74. Tobias

    SamWhited, thanks for the minutes

  75. Tobias

    we have logs again, thanks to whoever did that

  76. jonasw


  77. jonasw

    amazing :)

  78. jonasw

    I’d like to throw in a reminder that people need to vote on https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/500