XMPP Council - 2018-05-02

I've spent the last 24 hours, it seems in meetings (last one last night finished at 10pm), and I have more to go - I'm sadly going to miss this week again.

So, without Dave, who've we got?

That's two. Anyone else?

daniel, SamWhited?

I'm. Here

oops, partially here.

heading to my desk now.

Not that we have agenda, but, you know, quorum :)

1) Roll call I think we've done this

I can't see anything obvious on the mailing list either.

has the xep-0050 debate been resolveds

So 2) Date of next Next Wed?

*resolved?

WFM

jonasw: Not exactly, but it's that neither of the curretn patches are getting merged.

And I think you've skipped to AOB early ;)

Kev, I thought it’s AOB -> Date of next, not Date of next -> AOB, sorry :)

I'd like to discuss 0050 some more indeed.

Anyway, no-one's complaining about SBTSBC, so

3) AOB

I'm pretty sure I won't be able to attend next week

No other AOB?

Re 0050: the original design of having both an action and an attribute for what is the default action is sub-optimal.

none from my side

Ge0rG: Yes, that's why Dave's suggested, and I've agreed with, nuking it.

Kev: nuking the default action, you mean?

If no-one here's disagreeing, I think we just need to move ahead and someone write words.

it was brought up that it would be a breaking change.

All options are a breaking change at this point.

And also that the <execute> action is still needed for initiating the flow

Becuase the current text is broken.

Yes.

So you'd have <execute> as the initiator, and not afterwards.

I suppose I could live with that.

The current text is broken, but maybe there are already in-the-wild workarounds around its brokenness, which we would be breaking.

I think we can easily leave a note explaining what the old text said about <execute/> as a non-initiator, so implementations can be aware and do what they want to deal with that.

great!

But this whole thread was started by the observation that things are broken in the wild because of the current text, so I think we do need to fix something.

Yeah.

Anyone else for anything else?

I'll take that as a "no". Thanks all.

Thanks Kev