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Dave
I've spent the last 24 hours, it seems in meetings (last one last night finished at 10pm), and I have more to go - I'm sadly going to miss this week again.
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Kev
So, without Dave, who've we got?
- Ge0rG !
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Kev
That's two. Anyone else?
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jonasw
daniel, SamWhited?
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daniel
I'm. Here
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SamWhited
oops, partially here.
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SamWhited
heading to my desk now.
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Kev
Not that we have agenda, but, you know, quorum :)
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Kev
1) Roll call I think we've done this
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Kev
I can't see anything obvious on the mailing list either.
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jonasw
has the xep-0050 debate been resolveds
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Kev
So 2) Date of next Next Wed?
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jonasw
*resolved?
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SamWhited
WFM
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Kev
jonasw: Not exactly, but it's that neither of the curretn patches are getting merged.
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Kev
And I think you've skipped to AOB early ;)
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jonasw
Kev, I thought it’s AOB -> Date of next, not Date of next -> AOB, sorry :)
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Ge0rG
I'd like to discuss 0050 some more indeed.
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Kev
Anyway, no-one's complaining about SBTSBC, so
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Kev
3) AOB
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Ge0rG
I'm pretty sure I won't be able to attend next week
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Kev
No other AOB?
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Ge0rG
Re 0050: the original design of having both an action and an attribute for what is the default action is sub-optimal.
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daniel
none from my side
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Kev
Ge0rG: Yes, that's why Dave's suggested, and I've agreed with, nuking it.
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Ge0rG
Kev: nuking the default action, you mean?
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Kev
If no-one here's disagreeing, I think we just need to move ahead and someone write words.
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Ge0rG
it was brought up that it would be a breaking change.
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Kev
All options are a breaking change at this point.
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Ge0rG
And also that the <execute> action is still needed for initiating the flow
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Kev
Becuase the current text is broken.
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Kev
Yes.
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Kev
So you'd have <execute> as the initiator, and not afterwards.
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Ge0rG
I suppose I could live with that.
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Ge0rG
The current text is broken, but maybe there are already in-the-wild workarounds around its brokenness, which we would be breaking.
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Kev
I think we can easily leave a note explaining what the old text said about <execute/> as a non-initiator, so implementations can be aware and do what they want to deal with that.
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Ge0rG
great!
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Kev
But this whole thread was started by the observation that things are broken in the wild because of the current text, so I think we do need to fix something.
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Ge0rG
Yeah.
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Kev
Anyone else for anything else?
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Kev
I'll take that as a "no". Thanks all.
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Ge0rG
Thanks Kev