git revert and an apology from Editor-me to the list ✏
dwd
I think a git revert is a very bad idea.
jonas’
why?
dwd
It might lead to XEP-0412 referring to a different XEP.
Kev
Not if the editor is smart.
Ge0rG
Because the XSF is already doing too much process for process sake.
jonas’
oh, Kev is here.
Kev
And I think carry on and hope Kev doesn't -1.
Kev
If he does, panic about that later.
Ge0rG
Keep calm and vote +1
dwd
Ge0rG, We do process so that we avoid people saying we're being arbitrary.
jonas’
Kev, fwiw, I’ll hate you if you -1 on the 24th
jonas’
(or actually any time after Friday, because I’ll be on vacation-ish then)
jonas’
;-)
Kev
The sky isn't going to fall regardless.
Kev
If it's January before we resolve a -1 it's not going to kill anyone.
dwd
So my view is that this is a process violation and we flag it with Board, saying we're going to wait and see what Kev votes (etc).
Kev
I wouldn't even bother flagging it, but whatever.
Ge0rG
It's about "Compliance Suite 2019", and we've had a history of attempting to publish it before the year in the name
jonas’
dwd, yeah, I’d say, despite having process, we’re still humans and mistakes happen, and we can roll them back (that’s what we have version control for). and we can then discuss if we tombstone XEP-0412 or if we reserve if for the CS-2019 version which will eventually be accepted
Kev, I think that the Board, as guardians of the process, are probably the right people to decide on what we do.
Ge0rG
Kev: we still have 4mins of meeting left, which you might use to issue votes
Ge0rGis just saying
dwd
5) Next Meeting
dwd
I'm not around next week. If you guys really want to meet the day after Christmas...
jonas’
is this a fair text for the trello item:
XEP-0412 was published before the council vote was finished, and there is a possibility that it is now vetoed.
Council stances:
- Ge0rG, Jonas, Kev: worry about -1 when it happens, hope for +0/+1
- dwd: Ask board what to do.
?
jonas’
I won’t be there either
Link Mauve
I’ll be somewhere between Paris and Leipzig next week, I suggest doing +2W this time.
jonas’
+1 on +2w
dwd
jonas’, Text looks accurate. Though I'm in favour of the proposed solution too. :-)
dwd
OK, so 2nd January 2019, 1600 UTC.
jonas’
updated:
XEP-0412 was published before the council vote was finished, and there is a possibility that it is now vetoed.
Council stances:
- Ge0rG, Jonas, Kev, dwd: worry about -1 when it happens, hope for +0/+1
dwd still wants to raise this to board, to be sure, since board is guardian of the process.
Link Mauve
I’m +1 on not worrying, which I do most of the time anyway. :D
dwd
6) Ite, Meeting Est.
dwd
(Fractionally ahead of the half hour mark)
jonas’
\o/
Link Mauve
Thanks all!
Ge0rG
+1 on +2w
jonas’
hm
Ge0rG
jonas’: when will you finally write that plugin that translates your [mh]* into English?
jonas’
Ge0rG, there was supposed to be something following that, but I decided to put it into xsf@ instead.
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pep.
> dwd> Link Mauve, Right, but the point fo that [deferred] state is to declutter Experimental.
And they can be brought back with a typo fix? :-°