XMPP Council - 2019-01-10

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  27. dwd Link Mauve, jonas’ - can you two update your bios on the website here, please: https://github.com/xsf/xmpp.org/blob/master/content/pages/about/xmpp-standards-foundation.md - editing directly in Github works well, so it shouldn't take either of you long.
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  29. goffi hi
  30. Ge0rG uh-oh! 😁
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  32. dwd goffi, If you're about to argue your case for the ProtoXEP, you're more than welcome (and indeed encouraged), but could you do so somewhere more visible (xsf@ perhaps?) in case others want to chip in.
  33. jonas’ dwd, it’s on my todo, will do when I’m at home
  34. jonas’ I don’t have my credentials with me
  35. Ge0rG dwd, goffi: I'd argue for standards@ instead of a MUC
  36. dwd Ge0rG, That would also be good, but sometimes the immediacy of a MUC is useful.
  37. Ge0rG okay, I don't oppose to moving that to xsf@ under the condition that it will be written up to standards@ in the end
  38. Ge0rG I haven't read up the previous discussion on standards@ yet, and I will do so ASAP
  39. goffi dwd: no I just came to see the logs, I'll defend the case on xsf mailing list which is the right location in my opinion. But I'm work now, so it's not the right time :)
  40. Ge0rG goffi: I tend to read up logs on http://logs.xmpp.org/council/
  41. goffi I mean standard mailing list of course
  42. dwd goffi, Great, thanks.
  43. goffi Ge0rG: yes I didn't knew the link, I've found it in the subject (it's probably on the wiki too I suppose).
  44. goffi know*
  45. Ge0rG :)
  46. goffi I'll wait for the minutes first anyway.
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  48. Guus Hello Council
  49. Guus I noted that in the last weeks, you considerably structured the way you're doing things
  50. Guus Thanks for doing that
  51. Guus Would now perhaps be a good time to include updating https://xmpp.org/about/xsf/records/council-votes/ in your effort?
  52. Guus There's a huge gap, but if we choose to start record things again, we might be able to fill the gap from history too
  53. Guus I'd love for our work to be more visible - keeping track of votes on the website would help.
  54. Ge0rG Guus: we have a Spreadsheet of Doom from last year's Council
  55. Ge0rG https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1AZ-Sna6OiRG--b-mJMKv3XXfrn3Nehm0kAtlyJvImL0/edit#gid=0
  56. Guus Ge0rG Backporting I can do - but I'd first like to see if we can fit in an update to these pages in your 'regular process'
  57. Ge0rG Guus: we can barely keep up with the 'regular process' ATM
  58. Guus I think you're selling yourself short there, Ge0rG 🙂
  59. Guus but if Council deems it not feasible, then I won't press
  60. dwd I can look into it.
  61. Guus Thanks Dave
  62. jonas’ I would so love to automate all of that
  63. jonas’ including our voting process
  64. jonas’ dwd, you seem rather occupied, mind if I take a shot at a voting bot?
  65. dwd I have half of one written in slixmpp, but I imagine you'd prefer a different library?
  66. dwd But yes, you'd be welcome.
  67. Guus
  68. Ge0rG That would be really awesome.
  69. Ge0rG Will it have Simple Buttons? 😁
  70. Zash Where'd that go anyways
  71. Ge0rG somebody fix XEP-0004
  72. Zash It's about forms, not actions.
  73. Ge0rG actions are a subset of forms
  74. Zash But at the same time a superset
  75. Zash Or maybe a sideset
  76. Ge0rG can we have a DAG of that?
  77. Zash Only if it's signed with a PoW algorithm
  78. Zash If clicking that button doesn't waste at least as much as the annual power consumption of Dennmark then I'm not even interested
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  80. Ge0rG once started to write a proto-XEP for using PoW to approve message delivery and to monetize the XMPP server at the same time
  81. Ge0rG I wish I had the time to finish it.
  82. Ge0rG had had?
  83. Kev Yes, English being weird.
  84. Ge0rG Not the weirdest of languages.
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  104. pep. Do we not have a voting bot already, can it not be made for a more general purpose rather
  105. pep. Link Mauve, you had patches for it btw
  106. Zash I also distinctly remember Kev having made some council bot
  107. Zash maybe it only did the agenda tho
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  109. Kev It was agenda-based. You put stuff on the agenda during the week, and typed !next repeatedly in the meeting to go through items.
  110. SouL Which sounds very nice
  111. Kev It was amusing enough. I'm not sure it was the single biggest productivity gain in the world :)
  112. SouL Haha
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