Ge0rGI'm sorry for missing last week (I was sick), and I'm sorry for most probably missing this week (just entering a very much delayed workshop so probably won't be able to follow along in here)
dwdGe0rG, No problem. Got some motions to vote on, mind.
dwdImportant Announcement: I have Eton Mess fudge, and it's very nice.
dwd1) Roll Call
dwdI'm hoping it's not just jonas’ and I.
jonas’Link Mauve maybe?
dwdKev, Link Mauve?
jonas’Kev sent apolgies
jonas’00:00:00 Day changed to 2019-03-18
15:31:39 Kev> Sorry, I'm not going to be around for this week again.
Link MauveHi, I am here too.
dwdAh, I didn't see that.
dwdOK, so only three, which is the bare minimum unfortunately.
dwdSO it seem Tedd Sterr even did an agenda this week.
dwd2) Agenda Bashing
dwdI'm beginning to think Tedd Sterr is like one of those elves which fix shoes in the night.
Link MauveHe’s done some very good work all this time. :)
dwdSo anyway, is there anything beyond what he put on the agenda?
jonas’not to my knowledge
dwd3) Items for voting:
Link MauveNeither to mine.
dwdLet's just go through the motions.
dwd a) Advance to Draft: XEP-0412 XMPP (Compliance Suites 2019) - https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0412.html
jonas’did we even have an LC?
dwdI confess I've lost track of where this one is myself.
jonas’we apparently did
dwdI do vaguely remember a rather quiet Last Call.
jonas’so, for various reasons I currently don’t have the energy to maintain that one anymore
jonas’as might’ve been apparent by my silence on-list, but I thought I’d state it for the record here
dwdOK. So we really need to find another volunteer.
jonas’off-the-record I’d like to mention that it’s partially because of private stuff going on and partially because of the very negative atmosphere around the CS-2019; the combination of which is too draining for me at the moment.
dwdjonas’, Can you ask on the list for a victim/volunteer?
jonas’I can probably do that
Ge0rGI'd volunteer that for 2019
jonas’Ge0rG, so you’ll take over '412?
Ge0rGBut don't blame me for pushing forward an agenda
dwdjonas’, You know that saying something in a meeting in a logged chatroom is about as on-the-record as you can get, right? :-)
jonas’I won’t, I promise.
jonas’that’s fine by me, we can patch Ge0rG in as the author
dwdjonas’, OK, nobody mention the negative atmosphere.
jonas’I think there was some discussion around it which I haven’t caught up to, which is why I can’t really vote on advancement right now
dwdI'm going to suggest we don't advance to Draft until Ge0rG has had a change to implement his agenda.✎
jonas’that sounds good
dwdI'm going to suggest we don't advance to Draft until Ge0rG has had a chance to implement his agenda. ✏
dwdOK. Moving on, then.
dwdb) Last Call: XEP-0353 (Jingle Message Initiation) - https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0353.html
dwdI'm fine with a Last Call here.
Link MauveSame, ralphm’s previous team had some comments on it, and Andrew Nenakhov’s team too.
Link MauveSo that’ll make a nice last call at least. :)
dwdI'm actually surprised it wasn't already Draft - it's pretty straightforward and came about as the result of practical experience.
dwdLink Mauve, Also a few of Fippo's contacts.
dwdLink Mauve, That was a +1, right?
dwd4) Outstanding Votes
See latest voting summary: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2019-March/035910.html
Link MauveYes, +1.
dwdjonas’, You owe for eax-cir and dox, Link Mauve you owe for eax-cir.
jonas’I’m -0 on DoX
dwdGe0rG, Also both if you're around.
jonas’I came to the conclusion that my own personal distaste for weird things like DoH shouldn’t stand in the way. Technically it’s as sensible as DoH.
Link MauveI haven’t had the time to review eax-cir yet, I’m still on list.
dwd5) Next Meeting
jonas’not from me
dwdIn that case:
jonas’Ge0rG, process wise, I suggest you do the changes for '412 and change the author while you’re at it
dwd7) Ite, Meeting Est.
dwdjonas’, That sounds sensible.
moparisthebestdwd, re: "Dave: +1 (will be pushing hard for Security Considerations in place about privacy)" when is the proper time to put in a PR about that, now, or after Ge0rG and Kev vote?
dwdmoparisthebest, After adoption is fine.
dwdmoparisthebest, That is, after it's been published as a XEP is fine.
moparisthebestassuming 1 of them vote +1 I guess :)
moparisthebestKev, Ge0rG , not to influence your vote or anything, but a wild DoX prosody module appears https://gist.github.com/wiktor-k/e363d789fd8f062f9613e4de0af3f98d :D
Ge0rGIt's not wild if it's not by mwild
dwdmoparisthebest, And if nobody votes -1. I can think of reasons for doing so.
moparisthebestdwd: but it has to be a majority +1 right? 2 +1 and 3 0s mean no xep right?
dwdmoparisthebest, Yes, you need at least 3 +1's, and also no -1's.