XMPP Council - 2019-03-20

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  20. Ge0rG I'm sorry for missing last week (I was sick), and I'm sorry for most probably missing this week (just entering a very much delayed workshop so probably won't be able to follow along in here)
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  23. dwd Afternoon all.
  24. jonas’ .
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  26. dwd Ge0rG, No problem. Got some motions to vote on, mind.
  27. dwd Important Announcement: I have Eton Mess fudge, and it's very nice.
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  29. dwd 1) Roll Call
  30. dwd I'm hoping it's not just jonas’ and I.
  31. jonas’ Link Mauve maybe?
  32. dwd Kev, Link Mauve?
  33. jonas’ Kev sent apolgies
  34. jonas’ 00:00:00 Day changed to 2019-03-18 15:31:39 Kev> Sorry, I'm not going to be around for this week again.
  35. Link Mauve Hi, I am here too.
  36. dwd Ah, I didn't see that.
  37. dwd OK, so only three, which is the bare minimum unfortunately.
  38. dwd SO it seem Tedd Sterr even did an agenda this week.
  39. dwd 2) Agenda Bashing
  40. dwd I'm beginning to think Tedd Sterr is like one of those elves which fix shoes in the night.
  41. Link Mauve ^^
  42. Link Mauve He’s done some very good work all this time. :)
  43. dwd Quite.
  44. dwd So anyway, is there anything beyond what he put on the agenda?
  45. jonas’ not to my knowledge
  46. dwd OK.
  47. dwd 3) Items for voting:
  48. Link Mauve Neither to mine.
  49. dwd Let's just go through the motions.
  50. dwd (Chairman joke)
  51. dwd a) Advance to Draft: XEP-0412 XMPP (Compliance Suites 2019) - https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0412.html
  52. jonas’ did we even have an LC?
  53. dwd I confess I've lost track of where this one is myself.
  54. jonas’ we apparently did
  55. dwd I do vaguely remember a rather quiet Last Call.
  56. jonas’ apparently
  57. jonas’ so, for various reasons I currently don’t have the energy to maintain that one anymore
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  59. jonas’ as might’ve been apparent by my silence on-list, but I thought I’d state it for the record here
  60. dwd OK. So we really need to find another volunteer.
  61. jonas’ off-the-record I’d like to mention that it’s partially because of private stuff going on and partially because of the very negative atmosphere around the CS-2019; the combination of which is too draining for me at the moment.
  62. dwd jonas’, Can you ask on the list for a victim/volunteer?
  63. jonas’ I can probably do that
  64. Ge0rG I'd volunteer that for 2019
  65. jonas’ Ge0rG, so you’ll take over '412?
  66. Ge0rG But don't blame me for pushing forward an agenda
  67. dwd jonas’, You know that saying something in a meeting in a logged chatroom is about as on-the-record as you can get, right? :-)
  68. jonas’ I won’t, I promise.
  69. Ge0rG jonas’: yes
  70. jonas’ dwd, "oops"
  71. jonas’ that’s fine by me, we can patch Ge0rG in as the author
  72. dwd jonas’, OK, nobody mention the negative atmosphere.
  73. jonas’ I think there was some discussion around it which I haven’t caught up to, which is why I can’t really vote on advancement right now
  74. dwd I'm going to suggest we don't advance to Draft until Ge0rG has had a change to implement his agenda.
  75. jonas’ that sounds good
  76. dwd I'm going to suggest we don't advance to Draft until Ge0rG has had a chance to implement his agenda.
  77. dwd OK. Moving on, then.
  78. dwd b) Last Call: XEP-0353 (Jingle Message Initiation) - https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0353.html
  79. dwd I'm fine with a Last Call here.
  80. dwd So +1
  81. jonas’ +1
  82. Link Mauve Same, ralphm’s previous team had some comments on it, and Andrew Nenakhov’s team too.
  83. Link Mauve So that’ll make a nice last call at least. :)
  84. dwd I'm actually surprised it wasn't already Draft - it's pretty straightforward and came about as the result of practical experience.
  85. Link Mauve Yeah.
  86. dwd Link Mauve, Also a few of Fippo's contacts.
  87. dwd Link Mauve, That was a +1, right?
  88. dwd 4) Outstanding Votes See latest voting summary: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2019-March/035910.html
  89. Link Mauve Yes, +1.
  90. dwd jonas’, You owe for eax-cir and dox, Link Mauve you owe for eax-cir.
  91. jonas’ I’m -0 on DoX
  92. dwd Ge0rG, Also both if you're around.
  93. jonas’ I came to the conclusion that my own personal distaste for weird things like DoH shouldn’t stand in the way. Technically it’s as sensible as DoH.
  94. Link Mauve I haven’t had the time to review eax-cir yet, I’m still on list.
  95. dwd OK.
  96. dwd 5) Next Meeting
  97. jonas’ +1w wfm
  98. dwd +1
  99. dwd 6) AOB
  100. dwd Anyone?
  101. jonas’ not from me
  102. dwd In that case:
  103. jonas’ Ge0rG, process wise, I suggest you do the changes for '412 and change the author while you’re at it
  104. dwd 7) Ite, Meeting Est.
  105. dwd jonas’, That sounds sensible.
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  107. moparisthebest dwd, re: "Dave: +1 (will be pushing hard for Security Considerations in place about privacy)" when is the proper time to put in a PR about that, now, or after Ge0rG and Kev vote?
  108. dwd moparisthebest, After adoption is fine.
  109. dwd moparisthebest, That is, after it's been published as a XEP is fine.
  110. moparisthebest assuming 1 of them vote +1 I guess :)
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  113. moparisthebest Kev, Ge0rG , not to influence your vote or anything, but a wild DoX prosody module appears https://gist.github.com/wiktor-k/e363d789fd8f062f9613e4de0af3f98d :D
  114. Ge0rG It's not wild if it's not by mwild
  115. moparisthebest wicked?
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  121. dwd moparisthebest, And if nobody votes -1. I can think of reasons for doing so.
  122. moparisthebest dwd: but it has to be a majority +1 right? 2 +1 and 3 0s mean no xep right?
  123. dwd moparisthebest, Yes, you need at least 3 +1's, and also no -1's.
  124. moparisthebest Ok cool thanks
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