I'm sorry for missing last week (I was sick), and I'm sorry for most probably missing this week (just entering a very much delayed workshop so probably won't be able to follow along in here)
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dwd
Afternoon all.
jonas’
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Ge0rG, No problem. Got some motions to vote on, mind.
dwd
Important Announcement: I have Eton Mess fudge, and it's very nice.
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1) Roll Call
dwd
I'm hoping it's not just jonas’ and I.
jonas’
Link Mauve maybe?
dwd
Kev, Link Mauve?
jonas’
Kev sent apolgies
jonas’
00:00:00 Day changed to 2019-03-18
15:31:39 Kev> Sorry, I'm not going to be around for this week again.
Link Mauve
Hi, I am here too.
dwd
Ah, I didn't see that.
dwd
OK, so only three, which is the bare minimum unfortunately.
dwd
SO it seem Tedd Sterr even did an agenda this week.
dwd
2) Agenda Bashing
dwd
I'm beginning to think Tedd Sterr is like one of those elves which fix shoes in the night.
Link Mauve
^^
Link Mauve
He’s done some very good work all this time. :)
dwd
Quite.
dwd
So anyway, is there anything beyond what he put on the agenda?
jonas’
not to my knowledge
dwd
OK.
dwd
3) Items for voting:
Link Mauve
Neither to mine.
dwd
Let's just go through the motions.
dwd
(Chairman joke)
dwd
a) Advance to Draft: XEP-0412 XMPP (Compliance Suites 2019) - https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0412.html
jonas’
did we even have an LC?
dwd
I confess I've lost track of where this one is myself.
jonas’
we apparently did
dwd
I do vaguely remember a rather quiet Last Call.
jonas’
apparently
jonas’
so, for various reasons I currently don’t have the energy to maintain that one anymore
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as might’ve been apparent by my silence on-list, but I thought I’d state it for the record here
dwd
OK. So we really need to find another volunteer.
jonas’
off-the-record I’d like to mention that it’s partially because of private stuff going on and partially because of the very negative atmosphere around the CS-2019; the combination of which is too draining for me at the moment.
dwd
jonas’, Can you ask on the list for a victim/volunteer?
jonas’
I can probably do that
Ge0rG
I'd volunteer that for 2019
jonas’
Ge0rG, so you’ll take over '412?
Ge0rG
But don't blame me for pushing forward an agenda
dwd
jonas’, You know that saying something in a meeting in a logged chatroom is about as on-the-record as you can get, right? :-)
jonas’
I won’t, I promise.
Ge0rG
jonas’: yes
jonas’
dwd, "oops"
jonas’
that’s fine by me, we can patch Ge0rG in as the author
dwd
jonas’, OK, nobody mention the negative atmosphere.
jonas’
I think there was some discussion around it which I haven’t caught up to, which is why I can’t really vote on advancement right now
dwd
I'm going to suggest we don't advance to Draft until Ge0rG has had a change to implement his agenda.✎
jonas’
that sounds good
dwd
I'm going to suggest we don't advance to Draft until Ge0rG has had a chance to implement his agenda. ✏
dwd
OK. Moving on, then.
dwd
b) Last Call: XEP-0353 (Jingle Message Initiation) - https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0353.html
dwd
I'm fine with a Last Call here.
dwd
So +1
jonas’
+1
Link Mauve
Same, ralphm’s previous team had some comments on it, and Andrew Nenakhov’s team too.
Link Mauve
So that’ll make a nice last call at least. :)
dwd
I'm actually surprised it wasn't already Draft - it's pretty straightforward and came about as the result of practical experience.
Link Mauve
Yeah.
dwd
Link Mauve, Also a few of Fippo's contacts.
dwd
Link Mauve, That was a +1, right?
dwd
4) Outstanding Votes
See latest voting summary: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2019-March/035910.html
Link Mauve
Yes, +1.
dwd
jonas’, You owe for eax-cir and dox, Link Mauve you owe for eax-cir.
jonas’
I’m -0 on DoX
dwd
Ge0rG, Also both if you're around.
jonas’
I came to the conclusion that my own personal distaste for weird things like DoH shouldn’t stand in the way. Technically it’s as sensible as DoH.
Link Mauve
I haven’t had the time to review eax-cir yet, I’m still on list.
dwd
OK.
dwd
5) Next Meeting
jonas’
+1w wfm
dwd
+1
dwd
6) AOB
dwd
Anyone?
jonas’
not from me
dwd
In that case:
jonas’
Ge0rG, process wise, I suggest you do the changes for '412 and change the author while you’re at it
dwd
7) Ite, Meeting Est.
dwd
jonas’, That sounds sensible.
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moparisthebest
dwd, re: "Dave: +1 (will be pushing hard for Security Considerations in place about privacy)" when is the proper time to put in a PR about that, now, or after Ge0rG and Kev vote?
dwd
moparisthebest, After adoption is fine.
dwd
moparisthebest, That is, after it's been published as a XEP is fine.
moparisthebest
assuming 1 of them vote +1 I guess :)
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moparisthebest
Kev, Ge0rG , not to influence your vote or anything, but a wild DoX prosody module appears https://gist.github.com/wiktor-k/e363d789fd8f062f9613e4de0af3f98d :D
Ge0rG
It's not wild if it's not by mwild
moparisthebest
wicked?
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dwd
moparisthebest, And if nobody votes -1. I can think of reasons for doing so.
moparisthebest
dwd: but it has to be a majority +1 right? 2 +1 and 3 0s mean no xep right?
dwd
moparisthebest, Yes, you need at least 3 +1's, and also no -1's.