XMPP Council - 2019-03-20

I'm sorry for missing last week (I was sick), and I'm sorry for most probably missing this week (just entering a very much delayed workshop so probably won't be able to follow along in here)

Afternoon all.

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Ge0rG, No problem. Got some motions to vote on, mind.

Important Announcement: I have Eton Mess fudge, and it's very nice.

1) Roll Call

I'm hoping it's not just jonas’ and I.

Link Mauve maybe?

Kev, Link Mauve?

Kev sent apolgies

00:00:00 Day changed to 2019-03-18 15:31:39 Kev> Sorry, I'm not going to be around for this week again.

Hi, I am here too.

Ah, I didn't see that.

OK, so only three, which is the bare minimum unfortunately.

SO it seem Tedd Sterr even did an agenda this week.

2) Agenda Bashing

I'm beginning to think Tedd Sterr is like one of those elves which fix shoes in the night.

^^

He’s done some very good work all this time. :)

Quite.

So anyway, is there anything beyond what he put on the agenda?

not to my knowledge

OK.

3) Items for voting:

Neither to mine.

Let's just go through the motions.

(Chairman joke)

a) Advance to Draft: XEP-0412 XMPP (Compliance Suites 2019) - https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0412.html

did we even have an LC?

I confess I've lost track of where this one is myself.

we apparently did

I do vaguely remember a rather quiet Last Call.

apparently

so, for various reasons I currently don’t have the energy to maintain that one anymore

as might’ve been apparent by my silence on-list, but I thought I’d state it for the record here

OK. So we really need to find another volunteer.

off-the-record I’d like to mention that it’s partially because of private stuff going on and partially because of the very negative atmosphere around the CS-2019; the combination of which is too draining for me at the moment.

jonas’, Can you ask on the list for a victim/volunteer?

I can probably do that

I'd volunteer that for 2019

Ge0rG, so you’ll take over '412?

But don't blame me for pushing forward an agenda

jonas’, You know that saying something in a meeting in a logged chatroom is about as on-the-record as you can get, right? :-)

I won’t, I promise.

jonas’: yes

dwd, "oops"

that’s fine by me, we can patch Ge0rG in as the author

jonas’, OK, nobody mention the negative atmosphere.

I think there was some discussion around it which I haven’t caught up to, which is why I can’t really vote on advancement right now

that sounds good

I'm going to suggest we don't advance to Draft until Ge0rG has had a chance to implement his agenda. ✏

OK. Moving on, then.

b) Last Call: XEP-0353 (Jingle Message Initiation) - https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0353.html

I'm fine with a Last Call here.

So +1

+1

Same, ralphm’s previous team had some comments on it, and Andrew Nenakhov’s team too.

So that’ll make a nice last call at least. :)

I'm actually surprised it wasn't already Draft - it's pretty straightforward and came about as the result of practical experience.

Yeah.

Link Mauve, Also a few of Fippo's contacts.

Link Mauve, That was a +1, right?

4) Outstanding Votes See latest voting summary: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2019-March/035910.html

Yes, +1.

jonas’, You owe for eax-cir and dox, Link Mauve you owe for eax-cir.

I’m -0 on DoX

Ge0rG, Also both if you're around.

I came to the conclusion that my own personal distaste for weird things like DoH shouldn’t stand in the way. Technically it’s as sensible as DoH.

I haven’t had the time to review eax-cir yet, I’m still on list.

OK.

5) Next Meeting

+1w wfm

+1

6) AOB

Anyone?

not from me

In that case:

Ge0rG, process wise, I suggest you do the changes for '412 and change the author while you’re at it

7) Ite, Meeting Est.

jonas’, That sounds sensible.

dwd, re: "Dave: +1 (will be pushing hard for Security Considerations in place about privacy)" when is the proper time to put in a PR about that, now, or after Ge0rG and Kev vote?

moparisthebest, After adoption is fine.

moparisthebest, That is, after it's been published as a XEP is fine.

assuming 1 of them vote +1 I guess :)

Kev, Ge0rG , not to influence your vote or anything, but a wild DoX prosody module appears https://gist.github.com/wiktor-k/e363d789fd8f062f9613e4de0af3f98d :D

It's not wild if it's not by mwild

wicked?

moparisthebest, And if nobody votes -1. I can think of reasons for doing so.

dwd: but it has to be a majority +1 right? 2 +1 and 3 0s mean no xep right?

moparisthebest, Yes, you need at least 3 +1's, and also no -1's.

Ok cool thanks