XMPP Council - 2019-05-15

BTW, I'm assuming nothing for the agenda this afternoon, still. Hence no agenda, which is simple laziness on my part. Link Mauve, please check your outstanding votes.

Given no agenda, I might well be absent.

OK. Ge0rG is absent too, I believe. jonas’ Link Mauve, if either of you can't make it we'll declare a skip.

I might be less absent than anticipated.

I’ll be here, but possibly a few minutes late

I got caught up in a work meeting and can only start my commute home now

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Tick tick.

1) Who's Here?

I mean, apart from me.

Oh hi, just on time!

Right, votes.

That's... Two.

I’m here

just fell through the door into the flat ✏

Are you OK?

eh, yes ✏

Anyway, that's Three. So we have quorum.

2) Agenda Bashing

(it’s a figure of speech (which apparently does not translate well) for when you come home exhausted)

Despite some effort, there was nothing for the agenda, so I didn't bother writing that in an email.

jonas’, I understood, I was merely being obtuse, sorry.

I’m afraid I’m too exhausted for that ;)

Editor Hat: I’m sorry that I didn’t get around to push updates to xeps, I had like four minutes between coming home and meeting start ;)

will take care of that after the meeting

Did I miss anything for the agenda?

Or do we really have nothing?

OK, I'll assume nothing.

3) Items for a vote (NULL)

4) Outstanding Votes

I think it's just Link Mauve for one.

PR #758 - XEP-0060: Expose pubsub#access_model and pubsub#publish_model - https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/758

I think so too, but will double check wtih tedds mail to be sure

Link Mauve, ^^

(I’m looking at it.)

5) AOB

?

Didn’t we already vote on that?

I quite remember having said +1 to it, or did something change that required a re-vote?

Well, you're welcome to say "+1" again for the avoidance of doubt.

I’m +1 on it anyway. ^^

I think we re-voted.

OK.

Any OB?

Assuming not:

Still deploring the lack of specification for the various form values in this XEP and a few other ones.

None from me.

none from me

OK

6) Next Meeting

+1W?

wfm

That's 2019-05-22 15:00Z I believe.

7) Ite, Meeting Est

Thanks all.

jonas’, Looks like you have a load of Editor work now, sorry.

Link Mauve, I think 758 was first vetoed and then it was brought back to life a few weeks after

that’s alright

will see to it in half an hour or so

pep., oh, thanks.

Link Mauve, Yeah, I think Kev originally vetoed, and somebody changed his mind several weeks afterward.

Does that not keep the original votes in this case? As in "I'm coming back on my decision" rather than "it's a new decision", it's not like 0060 has advanced or anything had changed with regard to it (or what judges would say "new evidence has come to light")

dwd, thanks for annotating the PRs

(Some of)

dwd, for the next agenda: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/690#issuecomment-463793958

Oops. Sorry, looks like I missed the meeting.

uh

I can see a conflict arising

https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/779 has passed the council vote, but the text there is not 100% compatible with the text proposed by Ge0rG on the ML for a proper fix ✏

oh, it is

nevermind

jonas’: that #690 comment is three months old, unless github is in another time bubble, right?

Ge0rG, yes, but we still haven’t talked about it

note that the PR is even from last council

dwd, also for next agenda: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/778 -- we need to re-discuss it after the changes Ge0rG made, it was vetoed by Kev before

Ge0rG, No worries about missing a null meeting.

jonas’: 778 has been voted on twice, the last vote was with the new changes.

are you sure?

ah I’m too stupid to read

yeah

passed \o/

I’m starting to question whether I should really be messing with xsf/xeps right now

mmmmmergespree