XMPP Council - 2019-05-15

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13:30:35 dwd BTW, I'm assuming nothing for the agenda this afternoon, still. Hence no agenda, which is simple laziness on my part. Link Mauve, please check your outstanding votes.
13:31:18 Kev Given no agenda, I might well be absent.
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14:08:43 dwd OK. Ge0rG is absent too, I believe. jonas’ Link Mauve, if either of you can't make it we'll declare a skip.
14:09:23 Ge0rG I might be less absent than anticipated.
14:09:37 jonas’ I’ll be here, but possibly a few minutes late
14:09:44 jonas’ I got caught up in a work meeting and can only start my commute home now
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14:56:03 jonas’ .
14:59:28 dwd Tick tick.
15:00:27 dwd 1) Who's Here?
15:00:38 dwd I mean, apart from me.
15:00:42 Link Mauve Oh hi, just on time!
15:01:12 Link Mauve Right, votes.
15:01:16 dwd That's... Two.
15:01:20 jonas’ I’m here
15:01:25 jonas’ just fell into the door
15:01:34 jonas’ just fell through the door into the flat
15:02:21 dwd Are you OK?
15:02:26 jonas’ eh, }s
15:02:29 jonas’ eh, yes
15:02:39 dwd Anyway, that's Three. So we have quorum.
15:02:47 dwd 2) Agenda Bashing
15:03:04 jonas’ (it’s a figure of speech (which apparently does not translate well) for when you come home exhausted)
15:03:10 dwd Despite some effort, there was nothing for the agenda, so I didn't bother writing that in an email.
15:03:25 dwd jonas’, I understood, I was merely being obtuse, sorry.
15:03:34 jonas’ I’m afraid I’m too exhausted for that ;)
15:03:45 jonas’ Editor Hat: I’m sorry that I didn’t get around to push updates to xeps, I had like four minutes between coming home and meeting start ;)
15:03:51 jonas’ will take care of that after the meeting
15:03:53 dwd Did I miss anything for the agenda?
15:03:59 dwd Or do we really have nothing?
15:04:29 dwd OK, I'll assume nothing.
15:04:42 dwd 3) Items for a vote (NULL)
15:04:49 dwd 4) Outstanding Votes
15:04:55 dwd I think it's just Link Mauve for one.
15:05:29 dwd PR #758 - XEP-0060: Expose pubsub#access_model and pubsub#publish_model - https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/758
15:05:31 jonas’ I think so too, but will double check wtih tedds mail to be sure
15:06:42 dwd Link Mauve, ^^
15:07:11 Link Mauve (I’m looking at it.)
15:07:12 dwd 5) AOB
15:07:14 dwd ?
15:07:29 Link Mauve Didn’t we already vote on that?
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15:07:48 Link Mauve I quite remember having said +1 to it, or did something change that required a re-vote?
15:08:07 dwd Well, you're welcome to say "+1" again for the avoidance of doubt.
15:08:12 Link Mauve I’m +1 on it anyway. ^^
15:08:14 dwd I think we re-voted.
15:08:21 dwd OK.
15:08:30 dwd Any OB?
15:08:49 dwd Assuming not:
15:08:50 Link Mauve Still deploring the lack of specification for the various form values in this XEP and a few other ones.
15:08:55 Link Mauve None from me.
15:09:09 jonas’ none from me
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15:09:43 dwd OK
15:09:48 dwd 6) Next Meeting
15:09:52 dwd +1W?
15:10:04 jonas’ wfm
15:10:31 dwd That's 2019-05-22 15:00Z I believe.
15:10:41 dwd 7) Ite, Meeting Est
15:10:44 dwd Thanks all.
15:10:59 dwd jonas’, Looks like you have a load of Editor work now, sorry.
15:11:12 pep. Link Mauve, I think 758 was first vetoed and then it was brought back to life a few weeks after
15:11:18 jonas’ that’s alright
15:11:24 jonas’ will see to it in half an hour or so
15:11:24 Link Mauve pep., oh, thanks.
15:12:51 dwd Link Mauve, Yeah, I think Kev originally vetoed, and somebody changed his mind several weeks afterward.
15:14:04 pep. Does that not keep the original votes in this case? As in "I'm coming back on my decision" rather than "it's a new decision", it's not like 0060 has advanced or anything had changed with regard to it (or what judges would say "new evidence has come to light")
15:27:21 jonas’ dwd, thanks for annotating the PRs
15:27:34 dwd (Some of)
15:31:31 jonas’ dwd, for the next agenda: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/690#issuecomment-463793958
15:37:45 Ge0rG Oops. Sorry, looks like I missed the meeting.
15:37:50 jonas’ uh
15:37:56 jonas’ I can see a conflict arising
15:38:14 jonas’ https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/779 has passed the council vote, but the text there is not 100% compatible with the text proposed on the ML
15:38:23 jonas’ https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/779 has passed the council vote, but the text there is not 100% compatible with the text proposed by Ge0rG on the ML for a proper fix
15:38:35 jonas’ oh, it is
15:38:36 jonas’ nevermind
15:39:28 Ge0rG jonas’: that #690 comment is three months old, unless github is in another time bubble, right?
15:39:48 jonas’ Ge0rG, yes, but we still haven’t talked about it
15:39:53 jonas’ note that the PR is even from last council
15:40:23 jonas’ dwd, also for next agenda: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/778 -- we need to re-discuss it after the changes Ge0rG made, it was vetoed by Kev before
15:40:25 dwd Ge0rG, No worries about missing a null meeting.
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15:45:07 Ge0rG jonas’: 778 has been voted on twice, the last vote was with the new changes.
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15:46:15 jonas’ are you sure?
15:46:28 jonas’ ah I’m too stupid to read
15:46:28 jonas’ yeah
15:46:30 jonas’ passed \o/
15:46:48 jonas’ I’m starting to question whether I should really be messing with xsf/xeps right now
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