Ge0rGI don't know yet whether I will be able to make today's meeting.
dwdjonas’, I'm wondering if it'll just be the two of us for Council.
dwdLink Mauve, You about?
jonas’that’s certainly a possibility
jonas’I might have AOB, which we could still discuss even without quorum?
jonas’may be useful to have a voice from you and/or any present floor
jonas’but I can also raise this in xsf@
dwd1) Roll Call
dwdjonas’, Link Mauve, Ge0rG ?
Ge0rGis more gone than there
Link MauveI’m here.
Link MauveSo, we have quorum.
jonas’HEALTH_WARN: 1 slow request(s) > 300s
dwdOh, sorry, I'd got distracted.
dwdWell, scratch today anyway, but if jonas’ wanted some thoughts I can give some.
jonas’I was wondering whether we should try to recruit some folks to whom we delegate power or who will give us advice on Jingle.
jonas’I personally do not feel very comfortable with voting on Jingle stuff, because it is a huge complex thing which I haven’t touched, at all, yet.
peterWe could create a Jingle SIG (cf https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0002.html) ;-)
Ge0rGI agree. I have the same feeling of looming incompetence
peterJingle is semi-clean compared to SIP, but WebRTC is indeed a complex technology.
jonas’Jingle is still a lot of stuff I don’t have an overview over
jonas’and even reading the XEPs wouldn’t help to really grasp the implementation implications I’m afraid
jonas’it’s a little different with MIX where I have sunken quite a few hours and which I considered while designing the MUC part of aioxmpp, but still
Link Mauvejonas’, I have worked on multiple Jingle implementations, and I feel I could be useful to this SIG.
peterI was half-joking about the SIG. But having an informal review team might be sensible.
peteris not a fan of formalism
> it’s a little different with MIX where I have sunken quite a few hours and which I considered while designing the MUC part of aioxmpp, but still
That feeling of sunk cost, I have it too now after the massive MUC changes
jonas’nothing to do with sunk cost I think?
jonas’it’s about difference in understanding of the different systems