XMPP Council - 2019-07-03

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  17. Ge0rG

    I don't know yet whether I will be able to make today's meeting.

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  40. dwd

    jonas’, I'm wondering if it'll just be the two of us for Council.

  41. dwd

    Link Mauve, You about?

  42. jonas’

    that’s certainly a possibility

  43. jonas’

    I might have AOB, which we could still discuss even without quorum?

  44. jonas’

    may be useful to have a voice from you and/or any present floor

  45. jonas’

    but I can also raise this in xsf@

  46. dwd

    1) Roll Call

  47. dwd

    jonas’, Link Mauve, Ge0rG ?

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  50. Ge0rG is more gone than there

  51. Link Mauve

    I’m here.

  52. Link Mauve

    So, we have quorum.

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    HEALTH_WARN: 1 slow request(s) > 300s

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    dwd, ?

  56. dwd

    Oh, sorry, I'd got distracted.

  57. dwd

    Well, scratch today anyway, but if jonas’ wanted some thoughts I can give some.

  58. jonas’

    I was wondering whether we should try to recruit some folks to whom we delegate power or who will give us advice on Jingle.

  59. jonas’

    I personally do not feel very comfortable with voting on Jingle stuff, because it is a huge complex thing which I haven’t touched, at all, yet.

  60. peter

    We could create a Jingle SIG (cf https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0002.html) ;-)

  61. Ge0rG

    I agree. I have the same feeling of looming incompetence

  62. peter

    Jingle is semi-clean compared to SIP, but WebRTC is indeed a complex technology.

  63. jonas’

    Jingle is still a lot of stuff I don’t have an overview over

  64. jonas’

    and even reading the XEPs wouldn’t help to really grasp the implementation implications I’m afraid

  65. jonas’

    it’s a little different with MIX where I have sunken quite a few hours and which I considered while designing the MUC part of aioxmpp, but still

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  67. Link Mauve

    jonas’, I have worked on multiple Jingle implementations, and I feel I could be useful to this SIG.

  68. peter

    I was half-joking about the SIG. But having an informal review team might be sensible.

  69. peter is not a fan of formalism

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    jonas’ [17:40]: > it’s a little different with MIX where I have sunken quite a few hours and which I considered while designing the MUC part of aioxmpp, but still That feeling of sunk cost, I have it too now after the massive MUC changes

  74. jonas’

    nothing to do with sunk cost I think?

  75. jonas’

    it’s about difference in understanding of the different systems

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