I don't know yet whether I will be able to make today's meeting.
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jonas’, I'm wondering if it'll just be the two of us for Council.
dwd
Link Mauve, You about?
jonas’
that’s certainly a possibility
jonas’
I might have AOB, which we could still discuss even without quorum?
jonas’
may be useful to have a voice from you and/or any present floor
jonas’
but I can also raise this in xsf@
dwd
1) Roll Call
dwd
jonas’, Link Mauve, Ge0rG ?
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jonas’
*crickets*
Ge0rGis more gone than there
Link Mauve
I’m here.
Link Mauve
So, we have quorum.
jonas’
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dwd, ?
dwd
Oh, sorry, I'd got distracted.
dwd
Well, scratch today anyway, but if jonas’ wanted some thoughts I can give some.
jonas’
I was wondering whether we should try to recruit some folks to whom we delegate power or who will give us advice on Jingle.
jonas’
I personally do not feel very comfortable with voting on Jingle stuff, because it is a huge complex thing which I haven’t touched, at all, yet.
peter
We could create a Jingle SIG (cf https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0002.html) ;-)
Ge0rG
I agree. I have the same feeling of looming incompetence
peter
Jingle is semi-clean compared to SIP, but WebRTC is indeed a complex technology.
jonas’
Jingle is still a lot of stuff I don’t have an overview over
jonas’
and even reading the XEPs wouldn’t help to really grasp the implementation implications I’m afraid
jonas’
it’s a little different with MIX where I have sunken quite a few hours and which I considered while designing the MUC part of aioxmpp, but still
peter
nod
Link Mauve
jonas’, I have worked on multiple Jingle implementations, and I feel I could be useful to this SIG.
peter
I was half-joking about the SIG. But having an informal review team might be sensible.
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jonas’ [17:40]:
> it’s a little different with MIX where I have sunken quite a few hours and which I considered while designing the MUC part of aioxmpp, but still
That feeling of sunk cost, I have it too now after the massive MUC changes
jonas’
nothing to do with sunk cost I think?
jonas’
it’s about difference in understanding of the different systems