dwdReminder that I'm on holiday, so won't be about for the meeting.
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Link MauveHi everyone.
Link MauveIt’s about time.
Link MauveGe0rG, Kev, jonas’, ping.
Ge0rGSorry, I've been on the Autobahn.
Link MauveOk.
jonas’I’m here
Ge0rGAs I'm participating in a real-life meeting at the same time, I'd suggest somebody else chairs
Link MauveKev said “I am also not here next week. Probably.”, so we can assume no quorum.
Link MauveOh, so you’re still here?
Ge0rGSemi-here.
jonas’Link Mauve, can you chair?
Link MauveI was looking for things to put on an agenda, but sure.
Link MauveSo, 1) roll call!
jonas’I’m here
Link MauveI count three people, we have quorum.
Link Mauve2) Agenda bashing
Link MauveDo we have an agenda?
jonas’we have three PRs
Link MauveI counted three PRs.
Link MauveAnything else?
jonas’not that I knew
Link Mauvepep., did you do what you wanted to do, or do you want us to skip one of your PRs?
Link Mauvepep., did you do what you wanted to do, or do you want us to skip your PR?
pep.skip, I haven't submitted anything
Link MauveI suggest we skip the activity summary this week, as I don’t have it.
Link MauveThanks pep.
Link Mauve3) Add pubsub#public in Publish-Subscribe features (PR #806)
Link MauveShall we vote?
jonas’we can
jonas’soo… I’m not sure on this one.
jonas’doesn’t this require a feature on the pubsub service, too?
Link MauveI think so too.
pep.Why?
pep.Say in the PR "if it's not present consider it $boolean"?
jonas’pep., on the service, not on the node
pep.I'm not sure why though
pep.still
jonas’I’d want to know, with muclumbus for example, whether I’ll get non-public nodes in the search
Link Mauvepep., so that users know that the service supports this new feature, and can avoid publishing something which can’t be made non-public.
jonas’in that case I wouldn’t bother to index
pep.jonas’, you wouldn't get them, the server would hide them
jonas’false, if the server doesn’t support it
pep.Then it's public
jonas’hm.
pep.Just like now
Link Mauvepep., but as an entity discovering it, you would need a feature to know whether “it’s public just like now”, or not.
pep.I don't understand why you want that. A flag to False means it's hidden, a flag to True or no flag means public. As a publishing entity though you might want to know indeed
pep.(?)
Link MauveI’m on list, I’ll send that feedback to edhelas after this meeting.
Link MauveGe0rG, jonas’?
jonas’on-list
pep.fwiw, a feature might not hurt for discovering entities, just that I don't think it's really useful
Link Mauve4) XEP-0045: Add Tags configuration and metadata (PR #808)
Link MauveThis one I haven’t reviewed at all, so I’m on list.
jonas’+1 on that one
Link Mauve5) Outstanding Votes
Link MauveI haven’t followed at all, do we have anything?
pep.What about pubsub#rsm? When I said skip I was talking about all the rest(?)
Link MauveOh, I didn’t understand that; 5) XEP-0060: Add a pubsub#rsm disco#info feature to clear confusion
jonas’+1
Link MauveI’m +1 on this one, but you should register it with the registrar, in section 16.3, and maybe too section 10 too.
pep.In coming changes I'm planning to rewrite rsm and order-by's "Dicovering support" sections, because these XEPs are not useful as is and it doesn't really make sense atm. pubsub#rsm is useful standalone though
Link MauveIndeed.
Link MauveI’m fine with this change in 0060 standalone.
Link MauveAlright, let’s continue.
Link Mauve6) Outstandinv Votes
Link Mauve6) Outstanding Votes
Link MauveI can’t find anything, I’d like to remind Editor that some PRs have been voted on and should be merged or closed.
Link Mauve7) Next Meeting
Link MauveIs +1W fine with the presents?
Link MauveI won’t be here in two weeks, fyi.
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Link Mauve8) AOB?
Ge0rGsorry, I had a network outage. on-list everything.
Link MauveAck.
Ge0rGI've sent something to standards@ regarding Message Errors, and I'd appreciate Council feedback. But that can go on list as well
jonas’none from me
jonas’+1w wfm
Ge0rGAlso no video conference on Compliance Suite 2020 with Kev so far.
Ge0rG+1W should work.
Link MauveGe0rG, alright, we can do that.
Link Mauve9) End of Meeting
Link MauveThanks all!
jonas’thanks Link Mauve
dwdIf Georg wasn't there, was that meeting technically quorate? Oh well. 😁
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dwdThanks for stepping in, Link Mauve.
Link Mauvedwd, he was there at times though. ^^
jonas’if only we had a protocol to indicate presence
dwdAt the beginning, which is probably all that counts.
Ge0rGI'm very much sorry.
jonas’in those IRL committees I was part of, we’d keep track of presence and stop the meeting (except AOB) when we lost quorum because people had to leave
Link MauveIf only we had a way to track presences of participants in a MUC.
Link MauveIf only we had a way to track the presence of participants in a MUC.
XMPP Council - 2019-08-07