XMPP Council - 2019-10-02

heads up, I’ll have a hard deadline on 15:30 UTC

anyone?

Ge0rG, Kev, Link Mauve, dwd (?)

I'm only vaguely around (in an IETF MLS WG Interim)

Hi, I’m here.

can we count dwd for quorum?

that’s 0.5 + 0.5 + 1.0 + 1.0, so I guess it’s quorum

if nobody objects I’ll take the chair

sit down, please

right

let’s begin

1) Roll Call

You can't count me for Quorum I'm afraid, I'm only here to track, not to participate.

Link Mauve still there?

Yes of course.

good

2) Agenda Bashing

Tedd was so kind to post an agenda.

A quick check hasn’t revealed anything he’s missed, which would mean no items for a vote.

Does anyone disagree?

No

JC said his docs were ready, but they've not been announced by the Editor.

did I forget to send an email?

If you didn't, then his docs - retraction? - are due a vote.

ah, someone else than me merged them

Sorry, here now. One of those days.

and something is off about them, I’ll have to check closely, cannot do it right now.

there’s this: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Moderation

that has been announced after the previous meeting

so I’ll add it to the agenda

anyways

3) Items for a vote

3a) Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Moderation

https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/message-moderation.html

(this is incorrectly marked as Experimental, which is also why things break in my tooling)

I haven’t looked at all into it yet, so on-list.

Me neither, so on list.

on-list it is

Kev, dwd?

jonas’, neither of them are here.

On-list.

Oh?

Link Mauve, kev said he is :)

I hadn't even noticed the announcement.

Oh, I missed Kev’s message. :D

Bad me.

okay, going to skip dave

AFAIK those are all items we have for a vote

4) Activiyt Summary

did anything time out?

There have been updates to XEPs according to Tedd: Updated: XEP-0060 (Publish-Subscribe), and XEP-0280 (Message Carbons) New: XEP-0422 (Message Fastening), and XEP-0423 (XMPP Compliance Suites 2020)

5) Outstanding Votes

PR #824 https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/824

everyone is on-list, so we’re all to blame

Proposed XMPP Extension: Authorization Tokens - https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/auth-tokens.html is missing votes by Ge0rG, Link Mauve and me (and Kev who defaults to -1)

does anyone want to cast votes now?

(they are not expiring until next week)

Still on list for me, I haven’t had the time to look at it in Sweden.

understandable

still on-list

moving on

6) Date of Next

+1w wfm

I have a travel day in +1W, but I hope to not be moving and be available at Meeting Time

noted

I'll send a note for the agenda next time I publish a XEP sorry

/merge

Link Mauve, Kev?

I shouldn’t have any issue on that day.

moving on for the sake of having a few minutes for AOB

7) AOB

(I don’t have any)

oh, I do

I have a bag of AOBs

wanted to note that I had a meeting with MattJ regarding the registries

Tell us more!

we have figured out a way forward, I just need to collect the motivation to do it

it’ll be similar to the xeps repository with docker and whatnot

I’ll try to get around to do this the next few days, I was mostly busy with search.jabber.network in the past week

end of my AOB

(with a friendly reminder of my hard deadline at 15:30Z)

I am still seeking inputs for CS-2020

I know that Council technically is required to contribute, but it would be great nevertheless

(is there a "not" missing in that sentence? ;) )

I am still seeking responses to the "Persisting Message Errors" thread

jonas’: yes

Ge0rG, can you summarize real quick what’s missing for CS-2020?

jonas’: new XEPs to mandate; a better intro text; real content for the Future section

right

I’ll have to look at the draft to reply to this

which I can’t reasonably do right now

XEP-0286 makes *some* sense for Mobile.

jonas’: you could provide opinion on whether XEP-0300 should be somewhere in the CS

given that time is pressing on this matter, I suggest that all council members will take a look at CS-2020 material give Ge0rG the input he needs.

Ge0rG, I don’t think that XEP-0300 on its own makes sense to have in CS. It’s a building block for other XEPs.

jonas’: great!

any remaining AOB which fits in the next 5min?

No.

Oh, wait.

okay. sorry for that.

8) Ite Meeting Est

thanks all

sorry for rushing it a bit

I want to make CS2020 active before the Christmas holidays.

Not sure whether to make it the last vote in current council or the first vote in 2020 council

jonas’, Thanks!

Thanks all.

Sorry I'm both busy today, and ill, again.

Ge0rG, I'd aim for this one, if we can.

I'll be back on normal noisy form at some point.

dwd: Council election is on 2019-11-21, which means we have to vote on November 6th latest, to not get problems from expiring Council members.

Kev, get better soon :)

Ta. It's just a cold, which I thought I was over and then went for a run today and the cold decided it Would Not Go Quietly Into The Night, so now ... you don't need details.

fun, I have a similar story sitting next to me on the sofa. so yeah.

Hi, I'd just like to mention that the message retractions protoXEP was announced something like 2 or 3 years ago, so you wouldn't have noticed that recently. The message moderation protoXEP *was* announced last week.

"I didn't notice" doesn't imply the needful wasn't done.

Yep, just clarifying