FYI, as the docker has gone MIA, here is a pre-rendered version of 0423, the one that I'm anticipating to request the Last Call for: https://op-co.de/tmp/xep-0423.html
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Ge0rG
It's that day of the week again.
Link Mauve
Hi, I’m here!
Ge0rG
I was just two minutes early.
jonas’
I’m here, too
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Link Mauve
dwd, Kev, Kev_?
Kev
I'm here.
Ge0rG
It looks like we have a quorum anyway.
Ge0rG
And if we count the two Kevs, we are even at full occupancy.
Ge0rG
Dave only sent apologies for the agenda, IIRC.
Kev
Only thing to do today is to LC CS, right?
Kev
Which I've not had a chance to review in detail yet, but +1 to LC.
Ge0rG
Kev: there is also an expiring vote on Message Moderation
jonas’
that’s the thing we definitely have to do, yes
Kev
Oh, I was sure I'd voted on that.
Ge0rG
Kev: apparently you were the only one
Kev
Ah :)
Kev
Well, let's start with
Kev
LC on CS?
Kev
+1
Link Mauve
+1
Ge0rG
Kev: can we make it More Formal please?
Ge0rG
Like, agenda and such.
jonas’
I don’t like how it puts fasten in an IQ payload
jonas’
oh, different thing
Kev
Ok
Ge0rG
Who'd like to stand up to chair?
Kev
1) Last call on Compliance Suites.
Kev
Formal enough?
Ge0rG
1) Roll Call, please
Kev
We already did that bit.
jonas’
not formally, tho
Link Mauve
^^'
Ge0rG
Kev: not Formally.
Kev
Do we really care whether we say the words 'roll call' before checking who's here?
Ge0rG
Kev: I'd hate the CS LC to be declared formally incorrect because of a form error.
Link Mauve
Ge0rG, we don’t have that formalism formalised anywhere, it’s only a tradition.
jonas’
okay, I’ll chair
Kev
Find me which bit of our formal process requires us to say 'roll call' at the start of Council.
Kev
I'll wait.
jonas’
if nobody objects
jonas’
because this is too meta
Kev
jonas’: Sure. I mean, I've already started, clearly.
jonas’
1) Roll Call
Kev
I'm here.
Link Mauve
Erm, I’m here too.
jonas’
me obviously, too
jonas’
is Ge0rG here, too?
Ge0rG
yeah!
jonas’
\o/
jonas’
2) Agenda Bashing
jonas’
- LC for XEP-0423
jonas’
anything else?
Ge0rG
I suppose we can figure out the presence of 0392 in 0423 during LC
Ge0rG
upcoming DST as an AOB please
jonas’
we’re all in europe, AFAIK DST change is in 2w
jonas’
okay, nothing else for the agenda, so moving on
jonas’
3) Items for a Vote
jonas’
3a) Instruct Editors to Issue a Last Call for XEP-0423
jonas’
+1
Kev
As we're working on the basis that we should do things as they're normally done, rather than what's required or useful, I'll on-list this one in a couple of weeks.
Ge0rG
+1
Link Mauve
+1
Link Mauve
Kev, :D
pep.
There was more than that LC on the agenda, but dwd isn't here so.. of course he's not transmitting this :(
Ge0rG
pep.: what else was there?
jonas’
alright, Kev on list, dwd absent, everyone else +1
jonas’
3b) ...
pep.
292 is still in proposed state since February
jonas’
it had a single bit of feedback
jonas’
which was mostly "this looks good"
Zash
I'll note that there was some discussion prior to LC that I forget if it resulted in any changes
Ge0rG
Did we have a Lash Call Shepherd?
jonas’
no
jonas’
okay, so:
3b) Vote on advancing XEP-0292 to Draft
Ge0rG
on-list
jonas’
on-list, I’m afraid
Link Mauve
On list, I’ll have to gather data about what has been done and what should be done.
jonas’
Kev, ?
Kev
on-list. It feels like we've done this already.
jonas’
not according to any minutes on standards@ apparently
jonas’
4) Date of Next
jonas’
+1w wfm
Link Mauve
Same.
Ge0rG
+1W WFM
Kev
I can't make next week.
jonas’
okay
jonas’
5) AOB
jonas’
5a) DST change
Kev
SOP, I suggest.
jonas’
UK, France and Germany change on Oct 27th
jonas’
I think that covers all council members?
Link Mauve
Correct.
jonas’
so I suggest that we move along with DST and meet at 16:00Z starting on Oct 30th, that is in two weeks. (discusing this now so that Kev can comment)✎
jonas’
so I suggest that we move along with DST and meet at 16:00Z starting on Oct 30th, that is in two weeks. (discussing this now so that Kev can comment) ✏
Ge0rG
I think so too.
Ge0rG
jonas’: +1
Link Mauve
That wfm.
Kev
As I said, I suggest SOP. Which is that Council is pinned to European DST.
Link Mauve
The EU is going to abolism DST quite soon, is that what it is?
jonas’
Kev, I failed to parse SOP, sorry
Kev
Standard Operating Procedure.
jonas’
okay, so we all agree
jonas’
any other AOB?
Link Mauve
I have another AOB:
Link Mauve
5b) Could we not formalise formalism for formalism’s sake? Doing things slightly out of the ordinary shouldn’t matter for the purpose of a meeting.
Ge0rG
Link Mauve: I'm very sorry. To you too, Kev
jonas’
Link Mauve, I don’t have a strong opinion on that, but it seemed like the easiest way to break out of the meta discussion earlier today
Link Mauve
No problem with that. :)
Link Mauve
But it felt like things already started at that time, that’s it.
Kev
I was, incidentally, trying to get the meeting done with quickly so I'd have time to go review the CS before I have to offline for the day.
jonas’
Kev, which unfortunately backfired
Link Mauve
That’s also how it felt to me.
jonas’
Kev, though you can review the CS while they’re in Last Call ;)
Ge0rG
Sorry, everyone.
Kev
Eaty meeting east?
jonas’
6) Ite Meeting Est
jonas’
Thanks all.
Kev
Thanks all.
jonas’
Sorry for taking reign of the chair like that
Ge0rG
Damn, I just wanted to cast my vote on Message Moderation.
Link Mauve
Ge0rG, you can still do so on list.
Ge0rG
Thanks, everyone.
Link Mauve
As I’m going to do once I’m done with it.
jonas’
right, I forgot the pending votes section
jonas’
Link Mauve, technically, the vote has expired just now, I think
jonas’
depending on what "close of business" actually means