XMPP Council - 2019-10-23

Afternoon, all. Unfortunately I need to nip out to pick up my daughter from school, so I'll certainly miss at least the beginning of the meeting. Meanwhile, I'm +1 on LCing CS 2020.

I’m desperately trying to get the LC started before the meeting, not sure if I’ll maek it

probably not

jonas’: you've got all the votes in now.

Ge0rG, yes, now I just need to build the docker image in less than 10 seconds

unlikely ;)

I'm on a train just passing Newport, so I'm only semi-here (which is more than I thought I'd be)

nope, still running

jonas’: technically, you just need to start it 14d in advance to the +2W meeting.

Ge0rG, which is already impossible because of DST

Doesn't have to be 14D long.

Kev, but at least?

> The Last Call shall expire not less than fourteen (14) days after the date of issue.

That's true, yes.

jonas’: in that case we won't make it anyway, because it's 14d after today.

Ge0rG, yeah

I really don't see this as a problem if we give votes on-list, and they come in after the LC ends.

Looks like we have 2.5 Council members. Let's try a Council Meeting?

in an unrelated matter, who’s chairing?

is Link Mauve here?

I can try.

1) Roll Call

Here (for the moment)

So we have a momentary quorum. Great.

2) Agenda Bashing

Link Mauve proposed https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/829

It's Editorial, doesn't need Council.

is it?

It's fixing a typo.

sometimes the line between typo and non-typo are blurry; when it changes the schema, I like to double-checvk

And the version bump in it as an editorial version bump.

luckily, Kev is also an editor, so I can just believe his word as a senior team member and change this from Needs Council to Editorial

I tend to agree that it's editorial

Anyway, +1 or no vote needed, as appropriate.

As long as the Editor merging it checks that the assertion that unsignedInteger was invalid, an dunsignedInt is what it should be is true :)

(Although I guess if Editors are ever concerned whether something is editorial or not, asking Council is preferable to having Council object subsequently)

But I think Editors have asked if this is editorial, and Council have replied :)

yeah, it’s settled IMO

People brought up some forgotten XEPs to the list.

The Editor has marked it as Editorial Change already :)

Other than that, I'm not aware of any topics for today.

me neither

but it has, again, be a bit chaotic here, so I’ve missed most of what’s been going on

(As an aside, the clocks are going back, rather than forward, so the LC went out with most of an hour to spare, even if someone wanted to be exceptionally (and wrongly, I think) pedantic).

I have an AOB as well, but it's probably better put as part of the LC discussion: Should 0392 be part of CS?

I wouldn't, personally. Not at the moment.

Should 0392 even be Standards Track?

Future direction seems reasonable, though.

Zash: Arguable.

Zash: that's an excellent separate AOB: how do we move a Standards Track XEP into Informational?

ask board

Why Board?

they have the power over '0001

which does not describe this transition, so they have to make a ruling, don’t they? ✏

It looks like we don't have anything to vote on today, anyway.

jonas’: I don't see why. I think we just change tracks and that's that.

Kev: is that something we need to vote on?

in any case, I’d say that’s a problem for future council

Ge0rG: I think just giving a nod would be sufficient, unless 392 is Draft.

technically, Editor is allowed to change tracks upon submission.

so it shouldn't be too hard afterwards, either.

I suggest we close now, before we lose quorum.

Which is moments away.

Alright.

sgtm

Date of next?

following DST in Europe?

WFM

Perfect.

No AOB from me.

None here either.

\o/

Cast your votes, everyone!

thanks, Ge0rG and everyone

in unrelated news, the LC on CS-2020 has started

3) End Of Stream

thanks. *gone*

jonas’: thanks very much!

Oops sorry, I was having guests. >_<

Link Mauve: how dare you?