XMPP Council - 2019-10-23

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  59. dwd Afternoon, all. Unfortunately I need to nip out to pick up my daughter from school, so I'll certainly miss at least the beginning of the meeting. Meanwhile, I'm +1 on LCing CS 2020.
  60. jonas’ I’m desperately trying to get the LC started before the meeting, not sure if I’ll maek it
  61. jonas’ probably not
  62. Ge0rG jonas’: you've got all the votes in now.
  63. jonas’ Ge0rG, yes, now I just need to build the docker image in less than 10 seconds
  64. jonas’ unlikely ;)
  65. Kev I'm on a train just passing Newport, so I'm only semi-here (which is more than I thought I'd be)
  66. jonas’ nope, still running
  67. Ge0rG jonas’: technically, you just need to start it 14d in advance to the +2W meeting.
  68. jonas’ Ge0rG, which is already impossible because of DST
  69. Kev Doesn't have to be 14D long.
  70. jonas’ Kev, but at least?
  71. jonas’ > The Last Call shall expire not less than fourteen (14) days after the date of issue.
  72. Kev That's true, yes.
  73. Ge0rG jonas’: in that case we won't make it anyway, because it's 14d after today.
  74. jonas’ Ge0rG, yeah
  75. Kev I really don't see this as a problem if we give votes on-list, and they come in after the LC ends.
  76. Ge0rG Looks like we have 2.5 Council members. Let's try a Council Meeting?
  77. jonas’ in an unrelated matter, who’s chairing?
  78. jonas’ is Link Mauve here?
  79. Ge0rG I can try.
  80. Ge0rG 1) Roll Call
  81. jonas’ is here
  82. Kev Here (for the moment)
  83. Ge0rG So we have a momentary quorum. Great.
  84. Ge0rG 2) Agenda Bashing
  85. Ge0rG Link Mauve proposed https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/829
  86. Kev It's Editorial, doesn't need Council.
  87. jonas’ is it?
  88. Kev It's fixing a typo.
  89. jonas’ sometimes the line between typo and non-typo are blurry; when it changes the schema, I like to double-checvk
  90. Kev And the version bump in it as an editorial version bump.
  91. jonas’ luckily, Kev is also an editor, so I can just believe his word as a senior team member and change this from Needs Council to Editorial
  92. Ge0rG I tend to agree that it's editorial
  93. Kev Anyway, +1 or no vote needed, as appropriate.
  94. Kev As long as the Editor merging it checks that the assertion that unsignedInteger was invalid, an dunsignedInt is what it should be is true :)
  95. Kev (Although I guess if Editors are ever concerned whether something is editorial or not, asking Council is preferable to having Council object subsequently)
  96. Kev But I think Editors have asked if this is editorial, and Council have replied :)
  97. jonas’ yeah, it’s settled IMO
  98. Ge0rG People brought up some forgotten XEPs to the list.
  99. jonas’ The Editor has marked it as Editorial Change already :)
  100. Ge0rG Other than that, I'm not aware of any topics for today.
  101. jonas’ me neither
  102. jonas’ but it has, again, be a bit chaotic here, so I’ve missed most of what’s been going on
  103. Kev (As an aside, the clocks are going back, rather than forward, so the LC went out with most of an hour to spare, even if someone wanted to be exceptionally (and wrongly, I think) pedantic).
  104. Ge0rG I have an AOB as well, but it's probably better put as part of the LC discussion: Should 0392 be part of CS?
  105. Kev I wouldn't, personally. Not at the moment.
  106. Zash Should 0392 even be Standards Track?
  107. Kev Future direction seems reasonable, though.
  108. Kev Zash: Arguable.
  109. Ge0rG Zash: that's an excellent separate AOB: how do we move a Standards Track XEP into Informational?
  110. jonas’ ask board
  111. Kev Why Board?
  112. jonas’ they have the power over '0001
  113. jonas’ which does not describe this transition, so they have to make a ruling, don’t hey?
  114. jonas’ which does not describe this transition, so they have to make a ruling, don’t they?
  115. Ge0rG It looks like we don't have anything to vote on today, anyway.
  116. Kev jonas’: I don't see why. I think we just change tracks and that's that.
  117. Ge0rG Kev: is that something we need to vote on?
  118. jonas’ in any case, I’d say that’s a problem for future council
  119. Kev Ge0rG: I think just giving a nod would be sufficient, unless 392 is Draft.
  120. Ge0rG technically, Editor is allowed to change tracks upon submission.
  121. Ge0rG so it shouldn't be too hard afterwards, either.
  122. Kev I suggest we close now, before we lose quorum.
  123. Kev Which is moments away.
  124. Ge0rG Alright.
  125. jonas’ sgtm
  126. jonas’ Date of next?
  127. jonas’ following DST in Europe?
  128. Kev WFM
  129. Ge0rG Perfect.
  130. Kev No AOB from me.
  131. Ge0rG None here either.
  132. jonas’ \o/
  133. Ge0rG Cast your votes, everyone!
  134. jonas’ thanks, Ge0rG and everyone
  135. jonas’ in unrelated news, the LC on CS-2020 has started
  136. Ge0rG 3) End Of Stream
  137. Kev thanks. *gone*
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  139. Ge0rG jonas’: thanks very much!
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  141. Link Mauve Oops sorry, I was having guests. >_<
  142. Ge0rG Link Mauve: how dare you?
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