XMPP Council - 2020-02-05


  1. jonas’

    my evening got chaotic last night and I forgot to send the Agenda, sorry for that

  2. Ge0rG

    Good occasion to make a short meeting :D

  3. Ge0rG

    It's time!

  4. jonas’

    ’tis time

  5. jonas’

    1) Roll Call

  6. Ge0rG .o/

  7. jonas’

    noone else?

  8. jonas’

    Zash, daniel?

  9. daniel

    Hi

  10. jonas’

    quorum!

  11. jonas’

    2) Agenda Bashing

  12. Zash

    Here

  13. jonas’

    there was no agenda, sorry for that

  14. jonas’

    I’ve been confused about weekdays all week already and yeah

  15. jonas’

    I think we have an outstanding vote on the LC (by dave, unfortunately)

  16. jonas’

    do we want to start another LC from the list?

  17. jonas’

    (or CFE, for that matter)

  18. jonas’

    I’d suggest XEP-0198

  19. daniel

    Good idea

  20. Ge0rG

    Yeah, 0198 is one of the less controversial ones to CFE

  21. jonas’

    let’s get moving then (will happily take more ideas)

  22. jonas’

    3) Items for a Vote

  23. jonas’

    3a) Issue a CFE for XEP-0198: Stream Management

  24. jonas’

    +1

  25. Ge0rG

    +1

  26. Zash

    +1

  27. daniel

    +1

  28. jonas’

    thanks

  29. jonas’

    3b) Issue a CFE for XEP-0423: XMPP Compliance Suites 2020 URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0423.html

  30. jonas’

    because why not

  31. jonas’

    +1

  32. Ge0rG

    What's the goal? Getting into Final?

  33. jonas’

    yes

  34. Ge0rG

    Ah, I somehow was confused about CFE vs LC.

  35. Ge0rG

    +1

  36. Ge0rG

    might be a bit early to have implementations though.

  37. jonas’

    that’s a good point

  38. jonas’

    we’ll see about that ;)

  39. jonas’

    might be interesting to gather implementation feedback though

  40. ralphm

    Anyone got experience. Nope. :-(

  41. daniel

    I'm actually not sure how a CFE for something like the compliance suite would look like

  42. jonas’

    daniel, I still think that compliance suites are an oddity of the Standards Track

  43. jonas’

    let’s see how it goes

  44. daniel

    +1

  45. daniel

    Wait we can't

  46. jonas’

    we can’t?

  47. daniel

    It's not 6 month old

  48. jonas’

    oh, right

  49. ralphm

    daniel, maybe a yielding a statement like: "I could be compliant with this already" or "actually I can't because this and that requirement cannot be done"

  50. Ge0rG

    Damn. Those timelines are killing me.

  51. Ge0rG forks off CS 2021

  52. jonas’

    daniel, true, abort the vote

  53. jonas’

    then nevermind on 3b

  54. jonas’

    4) Outstanding Votes

  55. daniel

    I also have the SRV record thing on my mind. But that also doesn't quite make the 6 month

  56. jonas’

    none by the present ones, Dave is pending on three ones obviously

  57. jonas’

    5) Date of Next

  58. jonas’

    +1w wfm

  59. jonas’

    daniel, true

  60. Ge0rG

    +1W might or might not work for me, I'm waiting for an appointment to happen on that day

  61. ralphm

    Ge0rG, :-) waiting for about a week? Or did you mean "anticipating".

  62. Ge0rG

    ralphm: I'm waiting for an appointment invitation to happen for that day. Does that work out?

  63. jonas’

    assuming that everyone else is also fine with +1w

  64. jonas’

    6) AOB

  65. daniel

    +1w wfm

  66. jonas’

    anyone got any AOB?

  67. ralphm

    Ge0rG, yes

  68. daniel

    Nope

  69. Ge0rG

    none here

  70. ralphm

    Thanks Council, for actively pushing XEPs through the process.

  71. jonas’

    ralphm, you’re welcome

  72. jonas’

    then that’s it

  73. jonas’

    7) Ite Meeting Est

  74. daniel

    Thank you jonas’

  75. jonas’

    I hope I’m not too much rushing those through

  76. jonas’

    I find it hard to strike the balance of accounting for latencies and typing and mobiles and stuff

  77. moparisthebest

    daniel, by "SRV thing" did you mean 368? because it only needs to be 6 months from advancing to draft and it advanced to draft almost 3 years ago (time really flies when you are having fun I guess)

  78. jonas’

    I find it hard to strike the balance of accounting for latencies and typing and mobiles and stuff and not having too much idletime

  79. jonas’

    it did indeed

  80. daniel

    Oh. I guess I looked at the last modification then

  81. daniel

    Or got confused with years

  82. moparisthebest

    yep, and that didn't really "change" anything, just clarified something

  83. daniel

    But we will look into that next week then

  84. ralphm

    daniel, so does Google, so there's that :-D

  85. moparisthebest

    without looking at dates I would have swore it only went to draft about a year ago, I must be getting old...

  86. jonas’

    I always think it’s been a ProtoXEP just a year or two back :/

  87. jonas’

    so we’re in the same boat there

  88. Zash

    Sorry, ran out of the office and relocated home in the middle there.