XMPP Council - 2020-02-05

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  48. jonas’

    my evening got chaotic last night and I forgot to send the Agenda, sorry for that

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  50. Ge0rG

    Good occasion to make a short meeting :D

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  77. Ge0rG

    It's time!

  78. jonas’

    ’tis time

  79. jonas’

    1) Roll Call

  80. Ge0rG .o/

  81. jonas’

    noone else?

  82. jonas’

    Zash, daniel?

  83. daniel


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  85. jonas’

    2) Agenda Bashing

  86. Zash


  87. jonas’

    there was no agenda, sorry for that

  88. jonas’

    I’ve been confused about weekdays all week already and yeah

  89. jonas’

    I think we have an outstanding vote on the LC (by dave, unfortunately)

  90. jonas’

    do we want to start another LC from the list?

  91. jonas’

    (or CFE, for that matter)

  92. jonas’

    I’d suggest XEP-0198

  93. daniel

    Good idea

  94. Ge0rG

    Yeah, 0198 is one of the less controversial ones to CFE

  95. jonas’

    let’s get moving then (will happily take more ideas)

  96. jonas’

    3) Items for a Vote

  97. jonas’

    3a) Issue a CFE for XEP-0198: Stream Management

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  99. Ge0rG


  100. Zash


  101. daniel


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  103. jonas’

    3b) Issue a CFE for XEP-0423: XMPP Compliance Suites 2020 URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0423.html

  104. jonas’

    because why not

  105. jonas’


  106. Ge0rG

    What's the goal? Getting into Final?

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  108. Ge0rG

    Ah, I somehow was confused about CFE vs LC.

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  110. Ge0rG

    might be a bit early to have implementations though.

  111. jonas’

    that’s a good point

  112. jonas’

    we’ll see about that ;)

  113. jonas’

    might be interesting to gather implementation feedback though

  114. ralphm

    Anyone got experience. Nope. :-(

  115. daniel

    I'm actually not sure how a CFE for something like the compliance suite would look like

  116. jonas’

    daniel, I still think that compliance suites are an oddity of the Standards Track

  117. jonas’

    let’s see how it goes

  118. daniel


  119. daniel

    Wait we can't

  120. jonas’

    we can’t?

  121. daniel

    It's not 6 month old

  122. jonas’

    oh, right

  123. ralphm

    daniel, maybe a yielding a statement like: "I could be compliant with this already" or "actually I can't because this and that requirement cannot be done"

  124. Ge0rG

    Damn. Those timelines are killing me.

  125. Ge0rG forks off CS 2021

  126. jonas’

    daniel, true, abort the vote

  127. jonas’

    then nevermind on 3b

  128. jonas’

    4) Outstanding Votes

  129. daniel

    I also have the SRV record thing on my mind. But that also doesn't quite make the 6 month

  130. jonas’

    none by the present ones, Dave is pending on three ones obviously

  131. jonas’

    5) Date of Next

  132. jonas’

    +1w wfm

  133. jonas’

    daniel, true

  134. Ge0rG

    +1W might or might not work for me, I'm waiting for an appointment to happen on that day

  135. ralphm

    Ge0rG, :-) waiting for about a week? Or did you mean "anticipating".

  136. Ge0rG

    ralphm: I'm waiting for an appointment invitation to happen for that day. Does that work out?

  137. jonas’

    assuming that everyone else is also fine with +1w

  138. jonas’

    6) AOB

  139. daniel

    +1w wfm

  140. jonas’

    anyone got any AOB?

  141. ralphm

    Ge0rG, yes

  142. daniel


  143. Ge0rG

    none here

  144. ralphm

    Thanks Council, for actively pushing XEPs through the process.

  145. jonas’

    ralphm, you’re welcome

  146. jonas’

    then that’s it

  147. jonas’

    7) Ite Meeting Est

  148. daniel

    Thank you jonas’

  149. jonas’

    I hope I’m not too much rushing those through

  150. jonas’

    I find it hard to strike the balance of accounting for latencies and typing and mobiles and stuff

  151. moparisthebest

    daniel, by "SRV thing" did you mean 368? because it only needs to be 6 months from advancing to draft and it advanced to draft almost 3 years ago (time really flies when you are having fun I guess)

  152. jonas’

    I find it hard to strike the balance of accounting for latencies and typing and mobiles and stuff and not having too much idletime

  153. jonas’

    it did indeed

  154. daniel

    Oh. I guess I looked at the last modification then

  155. daniel

    Or got confused with years

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  157. moparisthebest

    yep, and that didn't really "change" anything, just clarified something

  158. daniel

    But we will look into that next week then

  159. ralphm

    daniel, so does Google, so there's that :-D

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  161. moparisthebest

    without looking at dates I would have swore it only went to draft about a year ago, I must be getting old...

  162. jonas’

    I always think it’s been a ProtoXEP just a year or two back :/

  163. jonas’

    so we’re in the same boat there

  164. Zash

    Sorry, ran out of the office and relocated home in the middle there.

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