XMPP Council - 2020-02-19

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  45. dwd T-5?
  46. jonas’ yupp
  47. jonas’ just arrived at home
  48. Zash Just started some coffee
  49. pep. ugh already wednesday
  50. jonas’ 'tis time
  51. jonas’ 1) Roll Cal
  52. jonas’ 1) Roll Call
  53. daniel I’m here
  54. Zash Here
  55. jonas’ me too \o/
  56. jonas’ I suspect dwd might also be here, and IIRC Ge0rG sent apologies.
  57. jonas’ 2) Agenda Bashing
  58. jonas’ anything to add to the agenda?
  59. Zash Don't think so
  60. jonas’ 3) Items for a Vote
  61. jonas’ 3a) Start Last Call on XEP-0429 Title: Special Interests Group End to End Encryption URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0429.html Abstract: This document proposes the formation of a Special Interest Group (SIG) within the XSF devoted to the development of end-to-end encryption within the context of XMPP.
  62. jonas’ +1 for LC
  63. Zash +1
  64. Zash (why do these even go through LC?)
  65. jonas’ so that the details can be figured out in versioning under XSF IPR instead of in weird protoxep state
  66. daniel i don’t understand why the formation of sigs goes through the xep process
  67. daniel or more specifically why it goes through council
  68. jonas’ council is specifically responsible for SIGs
  69. daniel but yeah if we are responsible for that I’m +1
  70. jonas’ by definition
  71. jonas’ > A Special Interest Group (SIG) is a working group approved by the XMPP Council
  72. jonas’ (XEP-0002)
  73. pep. Yeah I also don't really understand. Hysterical raisins
  74. jonas’ they work on technical things
  75. Zash So it's like we delegate some work to that group
  76. daniel still the multistep process doesn’t make sense
  77. daniel do we now have to wait 6 month and for 2 implementations?
  78. jonas’ daniel, it kind of does. there was a bit discussion about the formalities of the SIG formation, and I think it makes a lot of sense to iron those out in Experimental
  79. jonas’ (or LC)
  80. jonas’ daniel, you confuse Active with Draft
  81. Zash It's not a Standards Track tho
  82. jonas’ daniel, you confuse Active with Final
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  84. daniel ah; mhhh never mind then
  85. daniel +1 on the LC
  86. jonas’ alright
  87. jonas’ moving on
  88. jonas’ 3b) Proposed XMPP Extension: Simple JSON Messaging URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/udt.html Abstract: This specification proposes a simple mechanism by which applications can transfer data safely, without needing additional protocol design work. It is intended to provide a protocol that is trivial to implement and can be driven with a simple API.
  89. jonas’ again, +1
  90. Zash +1
  91. daniel +0
  92. jonas’ (pinging dwd )
  93. jonas’ no dwd apparently
  94. jonas’ moving on
  95. jonas’ 3c) Proposed XMPP Extension: Trust Messages URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/trust-messages.html Abstract: This document specifies a way to communicate the trust in public long-term keys used by end-to-end encryption protocols from one endpoint to another.
  96. jonas’ I’m on-list on that one, haven’t had a chance to read it yet
  97. dwd Sorry, distracted at the wrong moment.
  98. Zash On-list
  99. daniel +1
  100. dwd I'm +1 on (3a), +1 on (3b), and +0 on (3c).
  101. jonas’ alright
  102. jonas’ 4) Outstanding Votes
  103. jonas’ none from previous meetings, you’re all awesome!
  104. jonas’ 5) Date of Next
  105. jonas’ +1w wfm
  106. jonas’ (though I’ll have to leave on time for burgers)
  107. dwd +1 to +1w.
  108. Zash +1+1w
  109. daniel i’ll be on a train with probably very spotty internet connection; but i'll try to make it
  110. jonas’ noted, thanks
  111. jonas’ 6) AOB
  112. jonas’ I don’t have any, does anyone else?
  113. dwd We need to figure out and restart that process discussion, I think. But not here.
  114. jonas’ right
  115. Zash That.
  116. jonas’ by process discussion you mean the ProtoXEP/Experimental mess?
  117. dwd Yup.
  118. jonas’ I meant to work through the thread and form an opinion
  119. jonas’ I should probably do that some time soon
  120. jonas’ AO-AOB?
  121. Zash ENOENT
  122. dwd NOAOB.
  123. jonas’ 7) Ite Meeting Est
  124. jonas’ thanks all
  125. jonas’ thanks Tedd :)
  126. Zash Thanks jonas’
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