jonas’I suspect dwd might also be here, and IIRC Ge0rG sent apologies.
jonas’2) Agenda Bashing
jonas’anything to add to the agenda?
ZashDon't think so
jonas’3) Items for a Vote
jonas’3a) Start Last Call on XEP-0429
Title: Special Interests Group End to End Encryption
This document proposes the formation of a Special Interest Group (SIG) within the XSF devoted to the development of end-to-end encryption within the context of XMPP.
jonas’+1 for LC
Zash(why do these even go through LC?)
jonas’so that the details can be figured out in versioning under XSF IPR instead of in weird protoxep state
danieli don’t understand why the formation of sigs goes through the xep process
danielor more specifically why it goes through council
jonas’council is specifically responsible for SIGs
danielbut yeah if we are responsible for that I’m +1
jonas’> A Special Interest Group (SIG) is a working group approved by the XMPP Council
pep.Yeah I also don't really understand. Hysterical raisins
jonas’they work on technical things
ZashSo it's like we delegate some work to that group
danielstill the multistep process doesn’t make sense
danieldo we now have to wait 6 month and for 2 implementations?
jonas’daniel, it kind of does. there was a bit discussion about the formalities of the SIG formation, and I think it makes a lot of sense to iron those out in Experimental
jonas’daniel, you confuse Active with Draft
ZashIt's not a Standards Track tho
jonas’daniel, you confuse Active with Final
danielah; mhhh never mind then
daniel+1 on the LC
jonas’3b) Proposed XMPP Extension: Simple JSON Messaging
This specification proposes a simple mechanism by which applications can transfer data safely, without needing additional protocol design work. It is intended to provide a protocol that is trivial to implement and can be driven with a simple API.
jonas’(pinging dwd )
jonas’no dwd apparently
jonas’3c) Proposed XMPP Extension: Trust Messages
This document specifies a way to communicate the trust in public long-term keys used by end-to-end encryption protocols from one endpoint to another.
jonas’I’m on-list on that one, haven’t had a chance to read it yet
dwdSorry, distracted at the wrong moment.
dwdI'm +1 on (3a), +1 on (3b), and +0 on (3c).
jonas’4) Outstanding Votes
jonas’none from previous meetings, you’re all awesome!
jonas’5) Date of Next
jonas’(though I’ll have to leave on time for burgers)
dwd+1 to +1w.
danieli’ll be on a train with probably very spotty internet connection; but i'll try to make it
jonas’I don’t have any, does anyone else?
dwdWe need to figure out and restart that process discussion, I think. But not here.
jonas’by process discussion you mean the ProtoXEP/Experimental mess?
jonas’I meant to work through the thread and form an opinion