XMPP Council - 2020-02-19

T-5?

yupp

just arrived at home

Just started some coffee

ugh already wednesday

'tis time

1) Roll Call ✏

I’m here

Here

me too \o/

I suspect dwd might also be here, and IIRC Ge0rG sent apologies.

2) Agenda Bashing

anything to add to the agenda?

Don't think so

3) Items for a Vote

3a) Start Last Call on XEP-0429 Title: Special Interests Group End to End Encryption URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0429.html Abstract: This document proposes the formation of a Special Interest Group (SIG) within the XSF devoted to the development of end-to-end encryption within the context of XMPP.

+1 for LC

+1

(why do these even go through LC?)

so that the details can be figured out in versioning under XSF IPR instead of in weird protoxep state

i don’t understand why the formation of sigs goes through the xep process

or more specifically why it goes through council

council is specifically responsible for SIGs

but yeah if we are responsible for that I’m +1

by definition

> A Special Interest Group (SIG) is a working group approved by the XMPP Council

(XEP-0002)

Yeah I also don't really understand. Hysterical raisins

they work on technical things

So it's like we delegate some work to that group

still the multistep process doesn’t make sense

do we now have to wait 6 month and for 2 implementations?

daniel, it kind of does. there was a bit discussion about the formalities of the SIG formation, and I think it makes a lot of sense to iron those out in Experimental

(or LC)

It's not a Standards Track tho

daniel, you confuse Active with Final ✏

ah; mhhh never mind then

+1 on the LC

alright

moving on

3b) Proposed XMPP Extension: Simple JSON Messaging URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/udt.html Abstract: This specification proposes a simple mechanism by which applications can transfer data safely, without needing additional protocol design work. It is intended to provide a protocol that is trivial to implement and can be driven with a simple API.

again, +1

+1

+0

(pinging dwd )

no dwd apparently

moving on

3c) Proposed XMPP Extension: Trust Messages URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/trust-messages.html Abstract: This document specifies a way to communicate the trust in public long-term keys used by end-to-end encryption protocols from one endpoint to another.

I’m on-list on that one, haven’t had a chance to read it yet

Sorry, distracted at the wrong moment.

On-list

+1

I'm +1 on (3a), +1 on (3b), and +0 on (3c).

alright

4) Outstanding Votes

none from previous meetings, you’re all awesome!

5) Date of Next

+1w wfm

(though I’ll have to leave on time for burgers)

+1 to +1w.

+1+1w

i’ll be on a train with probably very spotty internet connection; but i'll try to make it

noted, thanks

6) AOB

I don’t have any, does anyone else?

We need to figure out and restart that process discussion, I think. But not here.

right

That.

by process discussion you mean the ProtoXEP/Experimental mess?

Yup.

I meant to work through the thread and form an opinion

I should probably do that some time soon

AO-AOB?

ENOENT

NOAOB.

7) Ite Meeting Est

thanks all

thanks Tedd :)

Thanks jonas’