XMPP Council - 2020-02-19


  1. dwd T-5?
  2. jonas’ yupp
  3. jonas’ just arrived at home
  4. Zash Just started some coffee
  5. pep. ugh already wednesday
  6. jonas’ 'tis time
  7. jonas’ 1) Roll Cal
  8. jonas’ 1) Roll Call
  9. daniel I’m here
  10. Zash Here
  11. jonas’ me too \o/
  12. jonas’ I suspect dwd might also be here, and IIRC Ge0rG sent apologies.
  13. jonas’ 2) Agenda Bashing
  14. jonas’ anything to add to the agenda?
  15. Zash Don't think so
  16. jonas’ 3) Items for a Vote
  17. jonas’ 3a) Start Last Call on XEP-0429 Title: Special Interests Group End to End Encryption URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0429.html Abstract: This document proposes the formation of a Special Interest Group (SIG) within the XSF devoted to the development of end-to-end encryption within the context of XMPP.
  18. jonas’ +1 for LC
  19. Zash +1
  20. Zash (why do these even go through LC?)
  21. jonas’ so that the details can be figured out in versioning under XSF IPR instead of in weird protoxep state
  22. daniel i don’t understand why the formation of sigs goes through the xep process
  23. daniel or more specifically why it goes through council
  24. jonas’ council is specifically responsible for SIGs
  25. daniel but yeah if we are responsible for that I’m +1
  26. jonas’ by definition
  27. jonas’ > A Special Interest Group (SIG) is a working group approved by the XMPP Council
  28. jonas’ (XEP-0002)
  29. pep. Yeah I also don't really understand. Hysterical raisins
  30. jonas’ they work on technical things
  31. Zash So it's like we delegate some work to that group
  32. daniel still the multistep process doesn’t make sense
  33. daniel do we now have to wait 6 month and for 2 implementations?
  34. jonas’ daniel, it kind of does. there was a bit discussion about the formalities of the SIG formation, and I think it makes a lot of sense to iron those out in Experimental
  35. jonas’ (or LC)
  36. jonas’ daniel, you confuse Active with Draft
  37. Zash It's not a Standards Track tho
  38. jonas’ daniel, you confuse Active with Final
  39. daniel ah; mhhh never mind then
  40. daniel +1 on the LC
  41. jonas’ alright
  42. jonas’ moving on
  43. jonas’ 3b) Proposed XMPP Extension: Simple JSON Messaging URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/udt.html Abstract: This specification proposes a simple mechanism by which applications can transfer data safely, without needing additional protocol design work. It is intended to provide a protocol that is trivial to implement and can be driven with a simple API.
  44. jonas’ again, +1
  45. Zash +1
  46. daniel +0
  47. jonas’ (pinging dwd )
  48. jonas’ no dwd apparently
  49. jonas’ moving on
  50. jonas’ 3c) Proposed XMPP Extension: Trust Messages URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/trust-messages.html Abstract: This document specifies a way to communicate the trust in public long-term keys used by end-to-end encryption protocols from one endpoint to another.
  51. jonas’ I’m on-list on that one, haven’t had a chance to read it yet
  52. dwd Sorry, distracted at the wrong moment.
  53. Zash On-list
  54. daniel +1
  55. dwd I'm +1 on (3a), +1 on (3b), and +0 on (3c).
  56. jonas’ alright
  57. jonas’ 4) Outstanding Votes
  58. jonas’ none from previous meetings, you’re all awesome!
  59. jonas’ 5) Date of Next
  60. jonas’ +1w wfm
  61. jonas’ (though I’ll have to leave on time for burgers)
  62. dwd +1 to +1w.
  63. Zash +1+1w
  64. daniel i’ll be on a train with probably very spotty internet connection; but i'll try to make it
  65. jonas’ noted, thanks
  66. jonas’ 6) AOB
  67. jonas’ I don’t have any, does anyone else?
  68. dwd We need to figure out and restart that process discussion, I think. But not here.
  69. jonas’ right
  70. Zash That.
  71. jonas’ by process discussion you mean the ProtoXEP/Experimental mess?
  72. dwd Yup.
  73. jonas’ I meant to work through the thread and form an opinion
  74. jonas’ I should probably do that some time soon
  75. jonas’ AO-AOB?
  76. Zash ENOENT
  77. dwd NOAOB.
  78. jonas’ 7) Ite Meeting Est
  79. jonas’ thanks all
  80. jonas’ thanks Tedd :)
  81. Zash Thanks jonas’