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jonas’
it is extremely unlikely that I'll be on time, as announced. Since nobody volunteered to chair, I'll start the meeting from mobile.
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jonas’
(on time)
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jonas’
alright
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jonas’
traffic wasn’t nice to me, so I headed back to the office
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jonas’
I’m here
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Zash
Yo
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dwd
Made it after all. Hooray!
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jonas’
’tis time
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jonas’
1) Roll Call
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daniel
hi
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dwd
o/
- jonas’ is here, grumpy, in the work office, after he got owned by a meeting and trafifc
- jonas’ is here, grumpy, in the work office, after he got owned by a meeting and traffic
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Zash
Here
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jonas’
Ge0rG is excused
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jonas’
2) Agenda Bashing
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jonas’
anything to add?
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jonas’
(grumpiness reduces while head of operations brings me ice-cold chocolate)
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jonas’
let’s go then
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jonas’
3) Editor’s Update - ProtoXEP: Reminders - Expired calls: LC on XEP-0402 - Calls in progress: - CFE: XEP-0066 (Out of Band Data), ends: 2020-03-10 - CFE: XEP-0184 (Message Delivery Receipts), ends: 2020-03-17
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jonas’
(I’m actually not sure that list is complete, but okay)
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jonas’
4) Items for voting
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jonas’
4a) Proposed XMPP Extension: Reminders URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/reminders.html Abstract: This specification provides a way to set up reminders.
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jonas’
am I still here?
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daniel
+1
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jonas’
I think it’s a good start, but will require some work to be finally useful. +1
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Zash
+1
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jonas’
s/useful/whatever/
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daniel
i'd like to see a few changes (which have been proposed on list by other people) but it's good enough to get under our roof
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jonas’
what daniel says essentiall✎ -
jonas’
what daniel says essentially ✏
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jonas’
though it would be good if you stated somewhere for the record which those changes are, because I can see a few conflicting ideas floating around
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daniel
yes. i think i don’t need my council hat for that. but yes
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jonas’
sure, didn’t mean to say you need a council hat for that :)
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jonas’
dwd?
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jonas’
(I /cycle’d the room, did I miss a message by dwd at 16:03Z or did he not reply at all yet?)
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dwd
+1
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jonas’
there we go
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jonas’
thanks :)
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jonas’
moving on
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jonas’
4b) Decide on advancement of XEP-0402 Title: PEP Native Bookmarks URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0402.html Abstract: This specification defines a syntax and storage profile for keeping a list of chatroom bookmarks on the server. (The last call ends today, so be sure to send in your feedback if you haven’t already.)✎ -
jonas’
4b) Decide on advancement of XEP-0402 Title: PEP Native Bookmarks URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0402.html Abstract: This specification defines a syntax and storage profile for keeping a list of chatroom bookmarks on the server. ✏
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jonas’
This is the second LC. I think there was zero feedback on list?
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Zash
So, no complaints? :)
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jonas’
I think we can safely assume that
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jonas’
given that the last LC had quite some echo
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jonas’
I am +1 on advancement under that light
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Zash
So, +1
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dwd
I think all the feedback from the original was addressed. I think we're through the last significant changes. +1
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daniel
i’m gonna be on list. tbh I missed that those changes had actually been made yet
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jonas’
that was the reason for the auto-new-LC by Editors :)
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daniel
it'll probably be fine though
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jonas’
but fair enough
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jonas’
next:
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jonas’
4c) PR#898 Title: XEP-0060: Specify that empty <item/> are invalid on publish URL: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/898
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jonas’
I can give more context if needed, though I think the diff should be pretty self-explanatory
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jonas’
it is currently undefined behaviour in the spec, and I found one server implementation which emitted internal-server-error ;-)
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daniel
+1
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jonas’
I am +1
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Zash
+1
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dwd
So you can set a node to preserve no payloads *and* not include them in the notifications. What's the payload for here?
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jonas’
dwd, you leave the <item/> away completely
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jonas’
as mentioned in the PR comment
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jonas’
It is specified at the beginning of the #publisher-publish-request section
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dwd
Ah, OK. In that case, I should learn to read, and +1.
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jonas’
> Depending on the node configuration, the <publish/> element MAY contain no <item/> elements or one <item/> element. [18] [19]
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jonas’
I can’t find the exact wording I was looking for, but that’s the idea
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dwd
No need to rub it in. :-)
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jonas’
okay :D
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jonas’
moving on
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jonas’
5) Outstanding Votes
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jonas’
I think we still have a few, check the spreadsheet of doom please
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jonas’
I try to keep it up-to-date (though I wasn’t able to for this meeting since I’m on the work laptop without credentials)
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jonas’
does anyone want to cast votes now?
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jonas’
(I don’t think anything expires today)
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jonas’
(I also think only Ge0rG is missing votes)
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jonas’
6) Date of Next
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jonas’
+1 wfm✎ -
jonas’
+1w wfm ✏
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Zash
+1 +1w
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dwd
I may miss next week; I've unexpected travel but I've tried to arrange things so I'll be in the office for that time.
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jonas’
noted, thanks
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jonas’
(my colleage insists to tell my "raid group" (you) that the new boss is strong and you need at least a gnome level 40, whatever they mean by that)
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jonas’
7) AOB
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jonas’
I have a small AOB. Work decided to schedule monthly meetings of uncertain duration for the 1st wednesday each month
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jonas’
so I might sometimes be in the situation to be late, though there has been motion to get the meeting shifted more towards earlier work hours
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jonas’
just a heads up, I’ll inform you in time
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jonas’
any other AOB?
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dwd
jonas’, I'm absolutely fine with moving this meeting if that works better.
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jonas’
dwd, the time fits *perfectly* for me, it’s the work meeting which annoys me
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jonas’
it *starts* 30 min after my usual leave time, so I’d rather get that changed either way, especially since others also expressed annoyance with that
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jonas’
so I don’t want to change procedures here for now
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jonas’
if there’s nothing else I’m aiming for an early close
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Zash
sgtm
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jonas’
alright
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jonas’
8) Ite Meeting Est
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jonas’
thanks everyone
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jonas’
thanks Tedd
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daniel
thank you jonas’
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dwd
jonas’, Thanks!
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Zash
thanks jonas’
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Zash
praise Tedd
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Ge0rG
jonas’: I can offer a level 70 gnome, but I'd prefer to take the level 24 Black Orc.
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jonas’
Ge0rG: hah