XMPP Council - 2020-03-11


  1. Ge0rG looks at the clock
  2. jonas’ I do, too
  3. Zash Soon
  4. jonas’ now
  5. jonas’ 1) Roll Call
  6. Zash Here!
  7. jonas’ is that all?
  8. jonas’ Ge0rG!
  9. Zash forever alone
  10. Ge0rG ,o/
  11. jonas’ that’s a quorum
  12. jonas’ 2) Agenda Bashing
  13. jonas’ anything to add to the posted agenda?
  14. daniel Here
  15. jonas’ adds daniel to the Agenda
  16. daniel I have nothing to add
  17. jonas’ alright, assuming no addition to the agenda
  18. jonas’ 3) Editor’s Update - ProtoXEP: Reminders - Expired calls: CFE on XEP-0066 - Calls in progress: - CFE: XEP-0184 (Message Delivery Receipts), ends: 2020-03-17
  19. jonas’ 4) Items for voting
  20. jonas’ 4a) Decide on advancement of XEP-0066 Title: Out of Band Data URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0066.html Abstract: This specification defines two XMPP protocol extensions for communicating URIs, one for use in XMPP message stanzas and the other for use in a structured request-response interaction via XMPP IQ stanzas. Among other things, this enables one entity to inform another entity about a file that is available at an HTTP URL.
  21. jonas’ 4a) Decide on advancement of XEP-0066 Title: Out of Band Data URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0066.html Abstract: This specification defines two XMPP protocol extensions for communicating URIs, one for use in XMPP message stanzas and the other for use in a structured request-response interaction via XMPP IQ stanzas. Among other things, this enables one entity to inform another entity about a file that is available at an HTTP URL.
  22. daniel Very little feedback. I'd say -1
  23. jonas’ (one day I’ll remember to strip the line breaks first)
  24. jonas’ -1, there are a few sensible points brought up on-list
  25. jonas’ those should be addressed first
  26. Ge0rG -1, I totally missed the CFE, but I'm pretty sure it's not There Yet
  27. Zash Eh, -1 then.
  28. daniel It seems to get hard to get feedback
  29. daniel I wonder why that is
  30. jonas’ to get feedback on '66 or in general?
  31. daniel Does the community not know that this is important?
  32. daniel In general
  33. jonas’ we can discuss this as AOB
  34. jonas’ 5) Outstanding Votes I’m updating the spreadsheet of doom, one second
  35. jonas’ we have a few outstanding votes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ANu9KGmNf2r-qpLYqF7NdJTtqA1GIu55rf2deKbM0GA/edit?ts=5de7debe#gid=0
  36. jonas’ the only thing which is about to expire is VETOED either way, so no hurry
  37. jonas’ 6) Date of Next
  38. jonas’ +1w wfm
  39. daniel For me too
  40. Zash wfm
  41. jonas’ 7) AOB
  42. daniel I have a minor one
  43. jonas’ daniel, so, re feedback: I was under the impression that we got above-average feedback in this LC/CFE spree
  44. jonas’ maybe that was just my perception though
  45. daniel Dunno. I was particularly missing this for 66 and Avatar conversion
  46. jonas’ I’m not sure how we’d be able to find out the cause of lack of feedback
  47. jonas’ ah yeah, those in particular were pretty low.
  48. daniel Delivery receipts was bike shredded a bit
  49. jonas’ (haha shredded)
  50. jonas’ in case of '66, I was meaning to give feedback, but I didn’t make it to the deadline and others already stated things which need to be fixed either way
  51. daniel But yeah what ever. We probably won't find an answer to that anyway
  52. jonas’ in case of avatar conversion I personally simply lack experience
  53. jonas’ probably
  54. jonas’ daniel, what’s your AOB?
  55. Zash jonas’: didn't we have a thread on avatar conversion?
  56. daniel Since council was involved in that a couple of weeks ago I would just like to inform council that the omemo situation should be resolved now
  57. jonas’ ah yes, I noted the update
  58. jonas’ it was quite extensive
  59. jonas’ I’m pleased to see that it now uses SCE
  60. daniel We have more authors who are willing to incorporate feedback
  61. daniel And we resolved the GPL situation
  62. daniel That's it. Just wanted to have that on the record
  63. pep. note that it doesn't mean all libraries won't be GPL.. just that the spec is not bound to GPL anymore. Up to people to implement it :p
  64. daniel As it had been council business before
  65. jonas’ alright
  66. jonas’ anything else?
  67. daniel No
  68. jonas’ alright
  69. jonas’ 8) Ite Meeting Est
  70. jonas’ Thanks all, thanks Tedd in particular
  71. Zash Thanks all
  72. Ge0rG So I've read the Reminders XEP and the respective thread, and I have very mixed feelings about it all.
  73. flow Ge0rG, which you probably want to share in xsf@?
  74. Ge0rG flow: no, I'm currently wondering which Council decisioun would be the right one.
  75. pep. what kind of mixed feelings Ge0rG
  76. Ge0rG I'll write to standards@
  77. pep. k