XMPP Council - 2020-04-01


  1. Zash

    Soon...

  2. daniel

    Very

  3. daniel

    Hi

  4. jonas’

    1) Roll Call

  5. jonas’

  6. Zash 2

  7. Ge0rG

  8. jonas’

    daniel is there, too

  9. jonas’

    2) Agenda Bashing

  10. jonas’

    anything to add?

  11. Zash

    none here

  12. Ge0rG

    nope

  13. jonas’

    alright

  14. jonas’

    3) Editor’s Update - Expired calls: None - Calls in progress: XEP-0357 and XEP-0280. - New ProtoXEP: MUC Presence Versioning - More activity on OMEMO - XEP-0402 advanced to Draft - XEP-0435 (Reminders) accepted

  15. jonas’

    4) Items for voting

  16. jonas’

    4a) Proposed XMPP Extension: MUC Presence Versioning URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/muc-presence-versioning.html Abstract: This specification defines a versioning mechanism which reduces the amount of presence traffic in a XEP-0045 MUC

  17. jonas’

    haven’t read it yet, on-list

  18. daniel

    +1

  19. Zash

    +1

  20. Ge0rG

    +1

  21. Zash

    I read the raw XEP :) Interesting and seemed Good Enoug for Experimental™

  22. Zash

    unlike my spelling

  23. Ge0rG

    lovetox just promoted it to XEP Of The Year

  24. jonas’

    thanks, moving on

  25. Zash

    Haven't read the discussion yet tho

  26. jonas’

    (am I too fast?)

  27. jonas’

    4b) PR#913: XEP-0068: Clarify that FORM_TYPE does not need to be type='hidden' in submission forms URL: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/913

  28. jonas’

    I heard rumors of a very useful diff link, Ge0rG

  29. Ge0rG

    does it have any implications on legacy?

  30. Ge0rG

    jonas’: it was in the PR!

  31. jonas’

    !

  32. Zash

    !

  33. Ge0rG

    ¡

  34. jonas’

    so in theory it does have an impact, since forms which were previously not under XEP-0068 regieme (type="submit" with FORM_TYPE without type) are now

  35. jonas’

    but I don’t think that’s critical

  36. Ge0rG

    I suppose I'm +1

  37. jonas’

    though I remotely recall having to fix something around this in aioxmpp actually

  38. jonas’

    can’t find it though

  39. jonas’

    the "clarification" is good

  40. jonas’

    so +1

  41. Zash

    I think, with type=submit you would likely already have the form prototype, so the type is already known.

  42. Zash

    +1

  43. Zash

    daniel?

  44. daniel

    On list

  45. jonas’

    alright

  46. jonas’

    5) Outstanding Votes

  47. jonas’

    just me and Zash at this point on '184

  48. jonas’

    (doesn’t matter *much* since advancement has already been vetoed)

  49. jonas’

    I’m +0 following Daves argument

  50. jonas’

    Zash, do you want to vote on that?

  51. Zash

    +0

  52. Ge0rG

    jonas’: was there further clarification of The Authors Of 0184?

  53. jonas’

    Ge0rG, yes, PSA said he’d help

  54. jonas’

    so I suggest you coordinate with PSA to be able to fill gaps in his availability

  55. Ge0rG

    jonas’: yes, but he didn't say *how* he can help ;)

  56. Ge0rG

    so.. prepare PR, flag him?

  57. jonas’

    Ge0rG, I suggest you get in direct contact with him about the tasks which are on the todo

  58. jonas’

    just in case he wants to do the text mangling himself

  59. Ge0rG

    jonas’: roger that

  60. Ge0rG moves Editor out of the line

  61. jonas’

    alright

  62. jonas’

    6) Date of Next

  63. jonas’

    +1w wfm, with the adapted DST timeslot

  64. Zash

    wfm

  65. Ge0rG

    +1W WFM

  66. daniel

    Wfm

  67. jonas’

    7) AOB

  68. Ge0rG

    jonas’: is anybody in Council affected by a DST change that hasn't happened yet?

  69. Zash

    We're kinda eurocentric atm no?

  70. daniel

    When does the UK switch. Usually a week after us?

  71. jonas’

    Ge0rG, no

  72. jonas’

    daniel, no, at the same time

  73. jonas’

    I checked

  74. Zash

    I seem to remember something about vcard4.

  75. daniel

    Oh ok

  76. Zash

    Yay EU

  77. jonas’

    at least if pytz.timezone("Europe/London") vs. pytz.timezone("Europe/Berlin") vs. pytz.timezone("Europe/Stockholm") didn’t lie to me, everyone is on the same DST rhyhtm

  78. jonas’

    AO-AOB?

  79. jonas’

    assuming none

  80. jonas’

    8) Ite Meeting Est

  81. jonas’

    thanks everyone, thanks Tedd :)

  82. Zash

    Thanks all

  83. Ge0rG

    Tedd saved April Fool's!

  84. Zash

    All glory to Tedd

  85. Ge0rG

    All glory to the Hypno-Tedd?

  86. Zash

    Precisely

  87. jonas’

    All Hail the Glow-Tedd