XMPP Council - 2020-04-29


  1. jonas’

    I completely forgot to send out the agenda

  2. jonas’

    I’ll try to get around to do it in my lunch break

  3. Zash

    Is there some way to get the Spreadsheet of Doom out in csv or somesuch format?

  4. Zash

    It has grown larger than my screen and scrolling doesn't work without JavaScript for whatever reason.

  5. Zash

    Despite the whole "This doesn't work at all without JavaScript!!!!" notice

  6. Zash

    About to pack up and leave the office, should be home in time for the meeting but might be late depending on how long I spend trying to compose this message.

  7. jonas’

    good luck

  8. Zash

    !

  9. jonas’

    1) Roll Call

  10. Ge0rG

    🐾

  11. daniel

    Hi

  12. Zash

    Just got in the door

  13. jonas’

    2) Agenda Bashing

  14. jonas’

    sorry for the delay and stuff, I got confused last night about what I had done and hadn’t done yet

  15. jonas’

    I hope I didn’t miss anything important when I rushed it out this noon

  16. jonas’

    assuming that no

  17. jonas’

    3) Editor’s Update - Expired calls: None - Calls in progress: None - Some backlog on processing votes.

  18. Zash

    Doesn't the RAI vote expire now? Or is that next week?

  19. jonas’

    RAI?

  20. Zash

    https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/room-activity-indicators.html

  21. jonas’

    yes, expires this week

  22. jonas’

    need to update the SOD

  23. jonas’

    4) Items for a Vote

  24. jonas’

    I don’t think there are any new items, but we have *quite* a few pending votes

  25. jonas’

    5) Outstanding Votes

  26. jonas’

    here we can discuss RAI

  27. Ge0rG

    Luckily, the mail that Zash sent last night triggered me to look into the calendar and to rush out all the votes

  28. jonas’

    I’m taking daves comment as a "+1, but the editor need to do issue an NS upon acceptance"

  29. daniel

    I must admit that I haven't read it yet. Will do that as soon as this meeting is over and respond on list

  30. Zash

    Optimization for a MUC use case. Dangerously close to a bunch of other things we might want for other things.

  31. jonas’

    daniel, technically, that’s too late

  32. daniel

    OK. In that case I'm sorry

  33. daniel

    I can cast a +/- 0 now

  34. jonas’

    I’m +1 on RAI, we can iron out the edges in Experimental. Or learn that we need to discard it.

  35. daniel

    Not sure what it otherwise would default to

  36. jonas’

    then we have PR#924, which I still need to take to the list properly IIRC

  37. jonas’

    yeah

  38. jonas’

    push notifications advancement has been vetoed

  39. Zash

    Might learn something that will be useful for MIX later.

  40. jonas’

    the remaining pending votes are by Dave or don’t matter

  41. jonas’

    6) Date of Next

  42. jonas’

    +1w wfm

  43. Zash

    wfm, +1w does

  44. Ge0rG

    wfm

  45. daniel

    Wfm

  46. jonas’

    7) AOB

  47. SamWhited

    I'd like to ask the council to request a LC for XEP-0393 from the editor please. I coudl use the feedback since the spec has been relatively stable for a while now.

  48. jonas’

    SamWhited, you’re the author, you don’t need council for that

  49. jonas’

    or am I confused again?

  50. jonas’

    no, you’re right, you need to ask council

  51. SamWhited

    I've responded to the editors thread requesting documents for LC twice and gotten no response on this one even though my others were LCed, so I was hoping the council could prod them.

  52. jonas’

    we can vote on that next week, I suppose

  53. SamWhited

    I don't think the council has to do anything or vote

  54. jonas’

    > The Approving Body must agree that the XEP is ready to be considered for advancement.

  55. SamWhited

    I was just hoping they could ask the editor to do it since for some reason it hasn't been done. The editor can do a LC whenever, IIRC

  56. jonas’

    we had that with the Jingle one the other week, too

  57. SamWhited

    Oh, in that case the editor has been doing things wrong by asking on list for LCs to issue I guess :)

  58. jonas’

    SamWhited, that was on request from the council ;)

  59. jonas’

    FTR: it’s still in the queue and we’ll issue it as soon as the current LCs are through

  60. jonas’

    we don’t want to have too many LCs in-flight at the same time

  61. SamWhited

    I see; good enough for me. Thank you.

  62. Zash

    I'd still like a XHTML-IM 2

  63. jonas’

    me too

  64. Zash

    Link Mauve, poke? :)

  65. Link Mauve

    Me three.

  66. jonas’

    someone™ should do it ;)

  67. Link Mauve

    Yes please.

  68. jonas’

    any other AOB?

  69. jonas’

    assuming no

  70. jonas’

    8) Ite Meeting Est

  71. jonas’

    thanks everyone

  72. Zash

    Thanks

  73. pep.

    Me four :x

  74. jonas’

    SamWhited, I just saw that you replied to my agenda mail and I didn’t see it until just now.

  75. jonas’

    Sorry for that.

  76. jonas’

    this was a veeeery tired day

  77. SamWhited

    jonas’: is your editor hat on now? (I actually forgot you wwere the one that sent that email). No worries, thanks!