XMPP Council - 2020-09-02

1) Roll Call

Ge0rG, Zash, dwd, Daniel

Good morning everyone!

"morning" ✏

"good"

not convinced :D

Here

daniel said he’ll probably not make it, dwd isn’t here but in xsf@, pinged him

let’s dive in anyways

2) Agenda Bashing

any modifications?

It's fine as it is! :)

I've got a really very small tiny AOB re CS2021.

Ge0rG, I expected as much :)

3) Editor’s Update

nawthing

4) Items for voting

nothing either

5) Date of Next

so as I mentioned many times, I won’t be available for chairing or agendaing in the next two weeks

I'm most probably going to be still here next week

dwd already said he’ll not be available next week. Ge0rG didn’t know last week (do you know this week?), Zash wsa the only one without obstructions.

Hey, sorry I'm late.

hi dwd

right on time for the first point of discussion :)

jonas’: it looks like I'm going to be unavailable after next week, but still no precise ETA

I may not be about next week. I've the week off, so keeping track of time becomes highly tricky.

dwd, I know that feel

I could armchair-chair next weeks, but I'm not sure I can prepare an adequate agenda.

I would propose that we skip next week given that it’s not a particularly busy time right now anyways and that all can’t say for sure what’ll be what.

And also undesirable. Who wants to clock-watch while on holiday?

dwd, alarm clocks are a thing :)

Zash, any opinion?

from what I can tell, we have Zash next week, 0.8 Ge0rGs, 0.5 daniels, 0.2 dwds and 0.0 jonas’

that's not quite a quorum, is it?

not if my guesses are correct

though like quantum states, the probabilities will, hopefully, resolve to natural numbers at the meeting time

well, it's 1.0 Ge0rG, except not for the role of chair

I’d rather not have to deal with the mess of, for example, 0.8 Ge0rGs

ok, the next *regular* meeting will be in +3w

I think we can survive skipping one or two meetings

yeah

let’s just do that

any objections to +3w?

none

dwd, Ge0rG?

Do we have any LCs ending or somesuch?

Zash, the '411 LC ends, not entirely by coincidence, in +2w

so that’ll be OK

jonas’: I'm most probably not going to be there in +3W, and probably neither in +4W

Ge0rG, we’ll have to live with that

so +1W WFM, but not the other ones

+3w? Why not +2w? I know jonas’ won't be about, but I think the rest of us will be?

jonas’: you asked for my opinion on that ;P

dwd, we can also do +2w, but nobody has been enthusiastic about taking chair and agenda writing role on that date either

if we can find someone to do so, that’d be great and I’d be all for it

dwd, so if you want to take on that, let’s do +2w

I can try, certainly.

I may even remember to do an agenda (I probably will do if there's anything to put on it).

OK, so +2w with dwd as chair

6) AOB

I've uploaded an almost identical twin of XEP 0423 into inbox/cs-2021.xml at https://github.com/ge0rg/xeps/tree/cs2021

I can open a PR with it, but I'd rather first have daniel write the A/V section, in case an Editor decides to merge it and ask Council

Ge0rG, you can open a draft PR

then we won’t go ahead and merge things

and if you open the PR on gitlab, you also get a rendered version of the protoxep for free!

I would like to know if anyone "used" the last one. I'll commit to writing to standards@ and asking if anyone did.

jonas’: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/980

dwd: please do so

Will do.

jonas’: how do I open a PR on gitlab?

Ge0rG, like you do on github

ah, https://gitlab.com/xsf/xeps

I do need to fork it there as well, right?

yes

diff told me that the changes are purely metadata though

Right.

Ge0rG, you have in mind that daniel is mostly afk for the next 4w?

If you fork on gitlab you can then push to it from your github repo, mind.

*from your local clone of the github repo

the xeps checkout is by far not the one with the most remotes on my machine.

yet!

do we have anything else to discuss on this?

or do we have another AOB?

> The source branch is 7 commits behind the target branch

there is some lack of synchronization going on

jonas’: I'm done

Ge0rG, I updated master on github, sorry

then:

7) Ite Meeting Est

Thanks everyone, Thanks Tedd, Stay safe & healthy

Thanks jonas’

> Your pipeline has failed.

That's basically my workday in a single message.

Ge0rG, it passed though

and now you can hit exposed artifacts -> changed documents and go from there to get your rendered xep

can be linked to from the outside

jonas’: yup, great.

Oh, should I keep "Changes since 2019" as a sub-section after "Changes since 2020"?