XMPP Council - 2020-09-02

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  262. jonas’

    1) Roll Call

  263. jonas’

    Ge0rG, Zash, dwd, Daniel

  264. Ge0rG

    Good morning everyone!

  265. jonas’


  266. jonas’


  267. jonas’


  268. jonas’

    not convinced :D

  269. Zash


  270. jonas’

    daniel said he’ll probably not make it, dwd isn’t here but in xsf@, pinged him

  271. jonas’

    let’s dive in anyways

  272. jonas’

    2) Agenda Bashing

  273. jonas’

    any modifications?

  274. Zash

    It's fine as it is! :)

  275. Ge0rG

    I've got a really very small tiny AOB re CS2021.

  276. jonas’

    Ge0rG, I expected as much :)

  277. jonas’

    3) Editor’s Update

  278. jonas’


  279. jonas’

    4) Items for voting

  280. jonas’

    nothing either

  281. jonas’

    5) Date of Next

  282. jonas’

    so as I mentioned many times, I won’t be available for chairing or agendaing in the next two weeks

  283. Ge0rG

    I'm most probably going to be still here next week

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  285. jonas’

    dwd already said he’ll not be available next week. Ge0rG didn’t know last week (do you know this week?), Zash wsa the only one without obstructions.

  286. dwd

    Hey, sorry I'm late.

  287. jonas’

    hi dwd

  288. jonas’

    right on time for the first point of discussion :)

  289. Ge0rG

    jonas’: it looks like I'm going to be unavailable after next week, but still no precise ETA

  290. dwd

    I may not be about next week. I've the week off, so keeping track of time becomes highly tricky.

  291. jonas’

    dwd, I know that feel

  292. Ge0rG

    I could armchair-chair next weeks, but I'm not sure I can prepare an adequate agenda.

  293. jonas’

    I would propose that we skip next week given that it’s not a particularly busy time right now anyways and that all can’t say for sure what’ll be what.

  294. dwd

    And also undesirable. Who wants to clock-watch while on holiday?

  295. jonas’

    dwd, alarm clocks are a thing :)

  296. jonas’

    Zash, any opinion?

  297. jonas’

    from what I can tell, we have Zash next week, 0.8 Ge0rGs, 0.5 daniels, 0.2 dwds and 0.0 jonas’

  298. Ge0rG

    that's not quite a quorum, is it?

  299. jonas’

    not if my guesses are correct

  300. jonas’

    though like quantum states, the probabilities will, hopefully, resolve to natural numbers at the meeting time

  301. Ge0rG

    well, it's 1.0 Ge0rG, except not for the role of chair

  302. jonas’

    I’d rather not have to deal with the mess of, for example, 0.8 Ge0rGs

  303. jonas’

    ok, the next *regular* meeting will be in +3w

  304. Zash

    I think we can survive skipping one or two meetings

  305. jonas’


  306. jonas’

    let’s just do that

  307. jonas’

    any objections to +3w?

  308. Zash


  309. jonas’

    dwd, Ge0rG?

  310. Zash

    Do we have any LCs ending or somesuch?

  311. jonas’

    Zash, the '411 LC ends, not entirely by coincidence, in +2w

  312. jonas’

    so that’ll be OK

  313. Ge0rG

    jonas’: I'm most probably not going to be there in +3W, and probably neither in +4W

  314. jonas’

    Ge0rG, we’ll have to live with that

  315. Ge0rG

    so +1W WFM, but not the other ones

  316. dwd

    +3w? Why not +2w? I know jonas’ won't be about, but I think the rest of us will be?

  317. Ge0rG

    jonas’: you asked for my opinion on that ;P

  318. jonas’

    dwd, we can also do +2w, but nobody has been enthusiastic about taking chair and agenda writing role on that date either

  319. jonas’

    if we can find someone to do so, that’d be great and I’d be all for it

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  321. jonas’

    dwd, so if you want to take on that, let’s do +2w

  322. dwd

    I can try, certainly.

  323. dwd

    I may even remember to do an agenda (I probably will do if there's anything to put on it).

  324. jonas’

    OK, so +2w with dwd as chair

  325. jonas’

    6) AOB

  326. jonas’ hands the Mic to Ge0rG once more

  327. Ge0rG

    I've uploaded an almost identical twin of XEP 0423 into inbox/cs-2021.xml at https://github.com/ge0rg/xeps/tree/cs2021

  328. Ge0rG

    I can open a PR with it, but I'd rather first have daniel write the A/V section, in case an Editor decides to merge it and ask Council

  329. jonas’

    Ge0rG, you can open a draft PR

  330. jonas’

    then we won’t go ahead and merge things

  331. jonas’

    and if you open the PR on gitlab, you also get a rendered version of the protoxep for free!

  332. dwd

    I would like to know if anyone "used" the last one. I'll commit to writing to standards@ and asking if anyone did.

  333. Ge0rG

    jonas’: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/980

  334. Ge0rG

    dwd: please do so

  335. dwd

    Will do.

  336. Ge0rG

    jonas’: how do I open a PR on gitlab?

  337. jonas’

    Ge0rG, like you do on github

  338. Ge0rG

    ah, https://gitlab.com/xsf/xeps

  339. Ge0rG

    I do need to fork it there as well, right?

  340. jonas’


  341. jonas’

    diff told me that the changes are purely metadata though

  342. Ge0rG


  343. jonas’

    Ge0rG, you have in mind that daniel is mostly afk for the next 4w?

  344. dwd

    If you fork on gitlab you can then push to it from your github repo, mind.

  345. jonas’

    *from your local clone of the github repo

  346. Ge0rG

    the xeps checkout is by far not the one with the most remotes on my machine.

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  348. jonas’

    do we have anything else to discuss on this?

  349. jonas’

    or do we have another AOB?

  350. Ge0rG

    > The source branch is 7 commits behind the target branch

  351. Ge0rG

    there is some lack of synchronization going on

  352. Ge0rG

    jonas’: I'm done

  353. jonas’

    Ge0rG, I updated master on github, sorry

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  355. jonas’

    7) Ite Meeting Est

  356. jonas’

    Thanks everyone, Thanks Tedd, Stay safe & healthy

  357. dwd

    Thanks jonas’

  358. Ge0rG

    > Your pipeline has failed.

  359. dwd

    That's basically my workday in a single message.

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  361. jonas’

    Ge0rG, it passed though

  362. jonas’

    and now you can hit exposed artifacts -> changed documents and go from there to get your rendered xep

  363. jonas’

    can be linked to from the outside

  364. Ge0rG

    jonas’: yup, great.

  365. Ge0rG

    Oh, should I keep "Changes since 2019" as a sub-section after "Changes since 2020"?

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