XMPP Council - 2020-09-02


  1. jonas’

    1) Roll Call

  2. jonas’

    Ge0rG, Zash, dwd, Daniel

  3. Ge0rG

    Good morning everyone!

  4. jonas’

    "morning

  5. jonas’

    "morning"

  6. jonas’

    "good"

  7. jonas’

    not convinced :D

  8. Zash

    Here

  9. jonas’

    daniel said he’ll probably not make it, dwd isn’t here but in xsf@, pinged him

  10. jonas’

    let’s dive in anyways

  11. jonas’

    2) Agenda Bashing

  12. jonas’

    any modifications?

  13. Zash

    It's fine as it is! :)

  14. Ge0rG

    I've got a really very small tiny AOB re CS2021.

  15. jonas’

    Ge0rG, I expected as much :)

  16. jonas’

    3) Editor’s Update

  17. jonas’

    nawthing

  18. jonas’

    4) Items for voting

  19. jonas’

    nothing either

  20. jonas’

    5) Date of Next

  21. jonas’

    so as I mentioned many times, I won’t be available for chairing or agendaing in the next two weeks

  22. Ge0rG

    I'm most probably going to be still here next week

  23. jonas’

    dwd already said he’ll not be available next week. Ge0rG didn’t know last week (do you know this week?), Zash wsa the only one without obstructions.

  24. dwd

    Hey, sorry I'm late.

  25. jonas’

    hi dwd

  26. jonas’

    right on time for the first point of discussion :)

  27. Ge0rG

    jonas’: it looks like I'm going to be unavailable after next week, but still no precise ETA

  28. dwd

    I may not be about next week. I've the week off, so keeping track of time becomes highly tricky.

  29. jonas’

    dwd, I know that feel

  30. Ge0rG

    I could armchair-chair next weeks, but I'm not sure I can prepare an adequate agenda.

  31. jonas’

    I would propose that we skip next week given that it’s not a particularly busy time right now anyways and that all can’t say for sure what’ll be what.

  32. dwd

    And also undesirable. Who wants to clock-watch while on holiday?

  33. jonas’

    dwd, alarm clocks are a thing :)

  34. jonas’

    Zash, any opinion?

  35. jonas’

    from what I can tell, we have Zash next week, 0.8 Ge0rGs, 0.5 daniels, 0.2 dwds and 0.0 jonas’

  36. Ge0rG

    that's not quite a quorum, is it?

  37. jonas’

    not if my guesses are correct

  38. jonas’

    though like quantum states, the probabilities will, hopefully, resolve to natural numbers at the meeting time

  39. Ge0rG

    well, it's 1.0 Ge0rG, except not for the role of chair

  40. jonas’

    I’d rather not have to deal with the mess of, for example, 0.8 Ge0rGs

  41. jonas’

    ok, the next *regular* meeting will be in +3w

  42. Zash

    I think we can survive skipping one or two meetings

  43. jonas’

    yeah

  44. jonas’

    let’s just do that

  45. jonas’

    any objections to +3w?

  46. Zash

    none

  47. jonas’

    dwd, Ge0rG?

  48. Zash

    Do we have any LCs ending or somesuch?

  49. jonas’

    Zash, the '411 LC ends, not entirely by coincidence, in +2w

  50. jonas’

    so that’ll be OK

  51. Ge0rG

    jonas’: I'm most probably not going to be there in +3W, and probably neither in +4W

  52. jonas’

    Ge0rG, we’ll have to live with that

  53. Ge0rG

    so +1W WFM, but not the other ones

  54. dwd

    +3w? Why not +2w? I know jonas’ won't be about, but I think the rest of us will be?

  55. Ge0rG

    jonas’: you asked for my opinion on that ;P

  56. jonas’

    dwd, we can also do +2w, but nobody has been enthusiastic about taking chair and agenda writing role on that date either

  57. jonas’

    if we can find someone to do so, that’d be great and I’d be all for it

  58. jonas’

    dwd, so if you want to take on that, let’s do +2w

  59. dwd

    I can try, certainly.

  60. dwd

    I may even remember to do an agenda (I probably will do if there's anything to put on it).

  61. jonas’

    OK, so +2w with dwd as chair

  62. jonas’

    6) AOB

  63. jonas’ hands the Mic to Ge0rG once more

  64. Ge0rG

    I've uploaded an almost identical twin of XEP 0423 into inbox/cs-2021.xml at https://github.com/ge0rg/xeps/tree/cs2021

  65. Ge0rG

    I can open a PR with it, but I'd rather first have daniel write the A/V section, in case an Editor decides to merge it and ask Council

  66. jonas’

    Ge0rG, you can open a draft PR

  67. jonas’

    then we won’t go ahead and merge things

  68. jonas’

    and if you open the PR on gitlab, you also get a rendered version of the protoxep for free!

  69. dwd

    I would like to know if anyone "used" the last one. I'll commit to writing to standards@ and asking if anyone did.

  70. Ge0rG

    jonas’: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/980

  71. Ge0rG

    dwd: please do so

  72. dwd

    Will do.

  73. Ge0rG

    jonas’: how do I open a PR on gitlab?

  74. jonas’

    Ge0rG, like you do on github

  75. Ge0rG

    ah, https://gitlab.com/xsf/xeps

  76. Ge0rG

    I do need to fork it there as well, right?

  77. jonas’

    yes

  78. jonas’

    diff told me that the changes are purely metadata though

  79. Ge0rG

    Right.

  80. jonas’

    Ge0rG, you have in mind that daniel is mostly afk for the next 4w?

  81. dwd

    If you fork on gitlab you can then push to it from your github repo, mind.

  82. jonas’

    *from your local clone of the github repo

  83. Ge0rG

    the xeps checkout is by far not the one with the most remotes on my machine.

  84. jonas’

    yet!

  85. jonas’

    do we have anything else to discuss on this?

  86. jonas’

    or do we have another AOB?

  87. Ge0rG

    > The source branch is 7 commits behind the target branch

  88. Ge0rG

    there is some lack of synchronization going on

  89. Ge0rG

    jonas’: I'm done

  90. jonas’

    Ge0rG, I updated master on github, sorry

  91. jonas’

    then:

  92. jonas’

    7) Ite Meeting Est

  93. jonas’

    Thanks everyone, Thanks Tedd, Stay safe & healthy

  94. dwd

    Thanks jonas’

  95. Ge0rG

    > Your pipeline has failed.

  96. dwd

    That's basically my workday in a single message.

  97. jonas’

    Ge0rG, it passed though

  98. jonas’

    and now you can hit exposed artifacts -> changed documents and go from there to get your rendered xep

  99. jonas’

    can be linked to from the outside

  100. Ge0rG

    jonas’: yup, great.

  101. Ge0rG

    Oh, should I keep "Changes since 2019" as a sub-section after "Changes since 2020"?