XMPP Council - 2020-11-11

  1. Ge0rG

    I'm still catched in a different call

  2. jonas’


  3. jonas’

    don’t give me flashbacks to my english teacher in 8th grade.

  4. Ge0rG

    oh sorry.

  5. jonas’

    1) Roll Call

  6. jonas’


  7. jonas’

    (I do not actually have any strong opinion about this, except that I sure hope that no festivities take place this year, but still)

  8. Zash

    Here. Trying to compare compliance suites.

  9. Zash

    I have no idea what "Helau" is referencing.

  10. daniel


  11. jonas’

    Zash, related to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival in germany, specifically in north-rhine westfalia

  12. jonas’

    either way

  13. jonas’

    we do have quorum. I hope dave did not get hit by a box of rare vintage beer bottles

  14. jonas’

    2) Agenda Bashing

  15. jonas’

    any notes?

  16. jonas’

    assuming no

  17. jonas’

    3) Editor’s Update Nothing out of the ordinary.

  18. jonas’

    4) Items for voting

  19. jonas’

    NOTE: This is the second-to-last Council meeting of this election period. Votes started in this meeting run in danger of expiring at the boundary of Council terms.

  20. jonas’

    4a) Decide on Advancement of XEP-0443: XMPP Compliance Suites 2021 URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0443.html Abstract: This document defines XMPP application categories for different use cases (Core, Web, IM, and Mobile), and specifies the required XEPs that client and server software needs to implement for compliance with the use cases.

  21. daniel

    there was feedback that hasn’t been addressed yet, no?

  22. daniel

    or did I miss an update

  23. jonas’

    there was an update yesterday I didn’t look closely at yet

  24. jonas’


  25. jonas’

    now that was a useless link paste of mine

  26. jonas’

    I’m sure Ge0rG would’ve something to say about that, but I hear he’s caught in a call ;)

  27. jonas’

    daniel, here’s the diff: https://gitlab.com/xsf/xeps/-/merge_requests/35/diffs

  28. daniel

    oh ok. thanks. yes I think that addresses the feedback

  29. daniel

    which means I'm +1

  30. jonas’

    I am +1, too

  31. Zash


  32. Zash

    I feel like there could have been more feedback however.

  33. jonas’

    assuming that Ge0rG will vote later on

  34. jonas’

    Zash, I agree

  35. jonas’

    but at the same time, I’m happy that we didn’t have a huge semantics thread on the mailinglist

  36. Zash

    But at the same time, the differences from the previous compliance suite is not that big, and that was accepted.

  37. jonas’

    4b) PR1001: XEP-0393: clarify rules for span directives URL: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1001 Abstract: Previously I believe the styling of *** in the examples was incorrect. After discussing the matter on the mailing list we came to the conclusion that the actual rules were ambiguous and therefore *** could be styled either way. See-Also: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2020-November/037859.html

  38. jonas’

    I did not look into that yet

  39. daniel

    dito. on list

  40. Ge0rG

    +1 on 4a, on-list on 4b

  41. jonas’

    Ge0rG, thanks

  42. jonas’

    I’m on-list, too

  43. Zash


  44. jonas’


  45. jonas’

    please don’t let this one expire ;)

  46. jonas’

    5) Pending Votes - dwd and daniel on the ibr-token ProtoXEP, also the votes from today

  47. jonas’

    daniel, want to cast your vote on the ibr-token ProtoXEP?

  48. daniel

    does this expire today?

  49. jonas’

    no, next week

  50. daniel

    in that case i'm still on list

  51. jonas’

    okay thanks

  52. jonas’

    6) Date of Next

  53. jonas’

    +1w wfm, though it’s a holiday and I might forget about the meeting. I’ll try hard not to :)

  54. Zash

    Is it?

  55. daniel

    +1w wfm

  56. Zash

    +1w wfm

  57. jonas’

    Zash, in some parts of germany it is

  58. jonas’

    cool, that’ll be quorum

  59. jonas’

    7) AOB

  60. jonas’


  61. daniel

    none here

  62. Zash

    ... good luck in the elections?

  63. jonas’

    yeah, also, please cast your vote

  64. jonas’

    and thanks to Alex for organising it

  65. jonas’


  66. jonas’

    8) Ite Meeting Est

  67. jonas’

    thanks everyone, thanks Tedd, thanks Alex

  68. Zash

    Thanks all

  69. daniel

    thanks everyone