XMPP Council - 2020-11-11

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  76. Ge0rG

    I'm still catched in a different call

  77. jonas’


  78. jonas’

    don’t give me flashbacks to my english teacher in 8th grade.

  79. Ge0rG

    oh sorry.

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  81. jonas’

    1) Roll Call

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  83. jonas’

    (I do not actually have any strong opinion about this, except that I sure hope that no festivities take place this year, but still)

  84. Zash

    Here. Trying to compare compliance suites.

  85. Zash

    I have no idea what "Helau" is referencing.

  86. daniel


  87. jonas’

    Zash, related to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnival in germany, specifically in north-rhine westfalia

  88. jonas’

    either way

  89. jonas’

    we do have quorum. I hope dave did not get hit by a box of rare vintage beer bottles

  90. jonas’

    2) Agenda Bashing

  91. jonas’

    any notes?

  92. jonas’

    assuming no

  93. jonas’

    3) Editor’s Update Nothing out of the ordinary.

  94. jonas’

    4) Items for voting

  95. jonas’

    NOTE: This is the second-to-last Council meeting of this election period. Votes started in this meeting run in danger of expiring at the boundary of Council terms.

  96. jonas’

    4a) Decide on Advancement of XEP-0443: XMPP Compliance Suites 2021 URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0443.html Abstract: This document defines XMPP application categories for different use cases (Core, Web, IM, and Mobile), and specifies the required XEPs that client and server software needs to implement for compliance with the use cases.

  97. daniel

    there was feedback that hasn’t been addressed yet, no?

  98. daniel

    or did I miss an update

  99. jonas’

    there was an update yesterday I didn’t look closely at yet

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  101. jonas’

    now that was a useless link paste of mine

  102. jonas’

    I’m sure Ge0rG would’ve something to say about that, but I hear he’s caught in a call ;)

  103. jonas’

    daniel, here’s the diff: https://gitlab.com/xsf/xeps/-/merge_requests/35/diffs

  104. daniel

    oh ok. thanks. yes I think that addresses the feedback

  105. daniel

    which means I'm +1

  106. jonas’

    I am +1, too

  107. Zash


  108. Zash

    I feel like there could have been more feedback however.

  109. jonas’

    assuming that Ge0rG will vote later on

  110. jonas’

    Zash, I agree

  111. jonas’

    but at the same time, I’m happy that we didn’t have a huge semantics thread on the mailinglist

  112. Zash

    But at the same time, the differences from the previous compliance suite is not that big, and that was accepted.

  113. jonas’

    4b) PR1001: XEP-0393: clarify rules for span directives URL: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1001 Abstract: Previously I believe the styling of *** in the examples was incorrect. After discussing the matter on the mailing list we came to the conclusion that the actual rules were ambiguous and therefore *** could be styled either way. See-Also: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2020-November/037859.html

  114. jonas’

    I did not look into that yet

  115. daniel

    dito. on list

  116. Ge0rG

    +1 on 4a, on-list on 4b

  117. jonas’

    Ge0rG, thanks

  118. jonas’

    I’m on-list, too

  119. Zash


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  121. jonas’

    please don’t let this one expire ;)

  122. jonas’

    5) Pending Votes - dwd and daniel on the ibr-token ProtoXEP, also the votes from today

  123. jonas’

    daniel, want to cast your vote on the ibr-token ProtoXEP?

  124. daniel

    does this expire today?

  125. jonas’

    no, next week

  126. daniel

    in that case i'm still on list

  127. jonas’

    okay thanks

  128. jonas’

    6) Date of Next

  129. jonas’

    +1w wfm, though it’s a holiday and I might forget about the meeting. I’ll try hard not to :)

  130. Zash

    Is it?

  131. daniel

    +1w wfm

  132. Zash

    +1w wfm

  133. jonas’

    Zash, in some parts of germany it is

  134. jonas’

    cool, that’ll be quorum

  135. jonas’

    7) AOB

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  137. daniel

    none here

  138. Zash

    ... good luck in the elections?

  139. jonas’

    yeah, also, please cast your vote

  140. jonas’

    and thanks to Alex for organising it

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  142. jonas’

    8) Ite Meeting Est

  143. jonas’

    thanks everyone, thanks Tedd, thanks Alex

  144. Zash

    Thanks all

  145. daniel

    thanks everyone

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