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jonas’
1) Roll Call
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Ge0rG
OMG What!?
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Zash
I'm awake
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Ge0rG
My calendar is lying
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jonas’
dwd, daniel
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daniel
Hi
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dwd
Hiya
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jonas’
wee, full house
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jonas’
2) Agenda Bashing
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jonas’
anything to add/remove/modify?
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jonas’
assuming no
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jonas’
3) Editor’s Update * New ProtoXEP: Automatic Trust Management
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jonas’
* Also, restart of two LCs which affect Council
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jonas’
4) Items for voting
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jonas’
Does everyone agree to the working agreement that we will have 14 day voting periods starting at the first meeting where the agendum is discussed?
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Zash
Worked well enough this past year.
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Ge0rG
That's not on the Agenda!
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jonas’
I’m explicitly asking because there are documents on xmpp.org which say quite otherwise
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Zash
:O
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Ge0rG
I like the 14 day period as it gives you two Council Meetings to catch up. Let's continue it
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dwd
They loosely say it's when the Editor puts them before Council that the 14 day starts, but I thought we'd fixed that?
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jonas’
curiously enough, they state that the XMPP Editor sets the voting period, which is even stranger
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jonas’
but ok, it seems everyone is in broad agreement, please let me know until end of meeting if otherwise
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jonas’
4a) PR#1014: XEP-0176: Improve compatibility with WebRTC clients URL: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1014
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daniel
On list
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daniel
I'm honestly not entirely sure about the implications
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dwd
On list for this, sorry, I need to find some WebRTC expertise.
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jonas’
same
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jonas’
(on list)
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Ge0rG
on-list
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Zash
Uh, looked almost editorial, with only the schema change?
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dwd
jonas’, [[ Can I flag some AOB, please, before I forget? ]]
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jonas’
dwd, yes
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jonas’
Zash, I think we should ask the PR author to add some wording to the normative part in order to tie the change down properly if we agree to it
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jonas’
Zash, any vote?
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Link Mauve
Noted, thanks.
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Zash
on-list I suppose. anyone got WebRTC expertise we can drag into reviewing this? :)
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jonas’
Zash, maybe the web client folks
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dwd
Zash, I'm talking to Fippo now.
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jonas’
dwd, excellent
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jonas’
moving on, given the time
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Ge0rG
it'd be great to have webrtc folks feedback on-list
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jonas’
4b) PR#1008: XEP-0047: fix incorrect max sequence number URL: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1008 Abstract: Previously the text said that the max sequence number was 65535 (max unsigned 16 bit integer), but also said this was (1<<15)-1, which is actually max signed 16 bit integer or 32767.
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Zash
+1
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daniel
On list
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jonas’
I think this is fair enough, +1
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dwd
This one I'm +1 on; it's just fixing a typo in a parenthetical remark.
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Ge0rG
+1
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jonas’
4c) PR#1001: XEP-0393: clarify rules for span directives URL: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1001 I think Dave missed the deadline last term. If I just overlooked the vote, please let me know.
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jonas’
yeah...
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jonas’
I am still +0
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daniel
+1
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Zash
0+, again
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Ge0rG
+1
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jonas’
dwd, ?
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dwd
Erm. I don't recall this one at all before.
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jonas’
fun!
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jonas’
it was the one I asked you all not to let expire ;D
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dwd
And I'm not sure I understand it, so I'll go for on-list, sorry.
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jonas’
alright
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jonas’
4d) Proposed XMPP Extension: Automatic Trust Management URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/automatic-trust-management.html Abstract: This document specifies a way to automatically manage the trust in public long-term keys used by end-to-end encryption protocols.
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jonas’
on-list
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dwd
I *might* have to write this all out as ABNF in order to understand it.
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jonas’
dwd, please do, and then put it in the XEP
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Zash
dwd, if you do, you get all the +1s
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Ge0rG
that proto-xep goes in the sad tradition of XEP authors redefining commonly-used acronyms
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daniel
On list
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Ge0rG
on-list
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jonas’
dwd, ?
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jonas’
Zash, too
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Zash
on-list
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dwd
Didn't this one come up before?
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jonas’
ATM?
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jonas’
I don’t think so
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dwd
Or was it just something very similar?
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jonas’
it was newly added to inbox
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Zash
dwd, https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0434.html probably?
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Zash
this one seems to be mostly policy, while 434 is the wire format
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dwd
Yeah, I'll go on-list for this.
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jonas’
alright
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jonas’
5) Pending Votes
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jonas’
only the new ones \o/
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jonas’
6) Date of Next
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jonas’
+1w?
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dwd
+1w.
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Ge0rG
+1w
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jonas’
7) AOB
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jonas’
dwd, the stage is yours
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dwd
Hooray.
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dwd
If we can codify our voting policy/system, which seems to have been unchanged for years, I'll write it up in standards-speak and stick it in XEP-0001.
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jonas’
sgtm
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jonas’
note that much of it is already codified in the bylaws
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dwd
I'll try to come up with some text for next week, but have a think on how you think we vote first to make sureit aligns.
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dwd
jonas’, Oh, quite possibly.
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jonas’
I read the bylaws closely when I built that council bot a while back, and we have fully adhered to my understanding of those in the last term
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jonas’
this is my literal codification of it: https://github.com/horazont/councilbot/blob/master/councilbot/state.py#L268-L319
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dwd
Yeah, I think XEP-0001 is wrong, here. (Or we are, but we can fix that by changing XEP-0001).
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dwd
(Me done)
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jonas’
alright
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jonas’
anyone else?
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Zash
nah
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jonas’
then...
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jonas’
8) Ite Meeting Est
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jonas’
thanks everyone
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Ge0rG
thanks!
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Zash
Thanks