jonas’3) Editor’s Update
* New ProtoXEP: Automatic Trust Management
jonas’* Also, restart of two LCs which affect Council
jonas’4) Items for voting
jonas’Does everyone agree to the working agreement that we will have 14 day voting periods starting at the first meeting where the agendum is discussed?
ZashWorked well enough this past year.
Ge0rGThat's not on the Agenda!
jonas’I’m explicitly asking because there are documents on xmpp.org which say quite otherwise
Zash:O
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Ge0rGI like the 14 day period as it gives you two Council Meetings to catch up. Let's continue it
dwdThey loosely say it's when the Editor puts them before Council that the 14 day starts, but I thought we'd fixed that?
jonas’curiously enough, they state that the XMPP Editor sets the voting period, which is even stranger
jonas’but ok, it seems everyone is in broad agreement, please let me know until end of meeting if otherwise
jonas’4a) PR#1014: XEP-0176: Improve compatibility with WebRTC clients
URL: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1014
danielOn list
danielI'm honestly not entirely sure about the implications
dwdOn list for this, sorry, I need to find some WebRTC expertise.
jonas’same
jonas’(on list)
Ge0rGon-list
ZashUh, looked almost editorial, with only the schema change?
dwdjonas’, [[ Can I flag some AOB, please, before I forget? ]]
jonas’dwd, yes
jonas’Zash, I think we should ask the PR author to add some wording to the normative part in order to tie the change down properly if we agree to it
jonas’Zash, any vote?
Link MauveNoted, thanks.
Zashon-list I suppose. anyone got WebRTC expertise we can drag into reviewing this? :)
jonas’Zash, maybe the web client folks
dwdZash, I'm talking to Fippo now.
jonas’dwd, excellent
jonas’moving on, given the time
Ge0rGit'd be great to have webrtc folks feedback on-list
jonas’4b) PR#1008: XEP-0047: fix incorrect max sequence number
URL: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1008
Abstract: Previously the text said that the max sequence number was 65535 (max unsigned 16 bit integer), but also said this was (1<<15)-1, which is actually max signed 16 bit integer or 32767.
Zash+1
danielOn list
jonas’I think this is fair enough, +1
dwdThis one I'm +1 on; it's just fixing a typo in a parenthetical remark.
Ge0rG+1
jonas’4c) PR#1001: XEP-0393: clarify rules for span directives
URL: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1001
I think Dave missed the deadline last term. If I just overlooked the vote, please let me know.
jonas’yeah...
jonas’I am still +0
daniel+1
Zash0+, again
Ge0rG+1
jonas’dwd, ?
dwdErm. I don't recall this one at all before.
jonas’fun!
jonas’it was the one I asked you all not to let expire ;D
dwdAnd I'm not sure I understand it, so I'll go for on-list, sorry.
jonas’alright
jonas’4d) Proposed XMPP Extension: Automatic Trust Management
URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/automatic-trust-management.html
Abstract: This document specifies a way to automatically manage the trust in public long-term keys used by end-to-end encryption protocols.
jonas’on-list
dwdI *might* have to write this all out as ABNF in order to understand it.
jonas’dwd, please do, and then put it in the XEP
Zashdwd, if you do, you get all the +1s
Ge0rGthat proto-xep goes in the sad tradition of XEP authors redefining commonly-used acronyms
Zashthis one seems to be mostly policy, while 434 is the wire format
dwdYeah, I'll go on-list for this.
jonas’alright
jonas’5) Pending Votes
jonas’only the new ones \o/
jonas’6) Date of Next
jonas’+1w?
dwd+1w.
Ge0rG+1w
jonas’7) AOB
jonas’dwd, the stage is yours
dwdHooray.
dwdIf we can codify our voting policy/system, which seems to have been unchanged for years, I'll write it up in standards-speak and stick it in XEP-0001.
jonas’sgtm
jonas’note that much of it is already codified in the bylaws
dwdI'll try to come up with some text for next week, but have a think on how you think we vote first to make sureit aligns.
dwdjonas’, Oh, quite possibly.
jonas’I read the bylaws closely when I built that council bot a while back, and we have fully adhered to my understanding of those in the last term
jonas’this is my literal codification of it: https://github.com/horazont/councilbot/blob/master/councilbot/state.py#L268-L319
dwdYeah, I think XEP-0001 is wrong, here. (Or we are, but we can fix that by changing XEP-0001).