XMPP Council - 2020-12-09

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  45. Zash Where's the Spreadsheet of Doom these days?
  46. jonas’ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KyQCSGAsP-nHmH1X_EQOO-MfMzqSMxgBYGRlloAhxxY
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  48. jonas’ Zash, ^
  49. Zash Thanks
  50. Zash > The document has moved <A HREF="https://accounts.google.com/ServiceLogin?service=wise&amp... Didn't work
  51. Zash Trying to get csv out
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  53. dwd I needed to ask for access - you might want to turn link sharing on.
  54. Ge0rG Yes.
  55. daniel I'm going to be two minutes late
  56. jonas’ 1) Roll Call
  57. dwd Bacon please.
  58. jonas’ sorry, no bacon here
  59. dwd Does not compute.
  60. Zash Here
  61. Kev You have bacon. You eat bacon. You have no more bacon. This is the way of things.
  62. Ge0rG my wifi has something about bacon frames.
  63. jonas’ quorum!
  64. jonas’ 2) Agenda Bashing
  65. jonas’ anything?
  66. Ge0rG I liked it
  67. jonas’ cool
  68. daniel I'm here. Sorry
  69. jonas’ 3) Editor’s Update * New ProtoXEP: Stanza Multiplexing
  70. jonas’ 4) Items for voting
  71. jonas’ 4a) Proposed XMPP Extension: Stanza Multiplexing URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/mux.html Abstract: This spec provides a mechanism for multiplexing multiple virtual hosts over a single XMPP session.
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  74. Ge0rG I liked MUX, but I'm sure that the Montagues and the Capulets won't ever co-host on the same server.
  75. jonas’ on list
  76. jonas’ Ge0rG, it’s all in the cloud nowadays
  77. jonas’ (is that a +1?)
  78. Ge0rG Also the IQ is missing an ID of the domain to be authenticated
  79. Ge0rG +1
  80. dwd I think there's a ton of stuff that needs fixing here, but nothing preventing us taking it onto Experimental, so +1.
  81. Ge0rG so if you have multiple parallel MUXes going on, the IQs will be racy.
  82. jonas’ 5) Pending Votes
  83. jonas’ there are a lot
  84. jonas’ I didn’t get around to catch up on voting this week, so no news from me
  85. jonas’ anyone wants to cast votes?
  86. dwd The Jingle change has been updated, and I am now +1.
  87. Zash Haven't had a chance to look closer at my pending items yet.
  88. Ge0rG +1 on ATM
  89. daniel +1 on ATM (even though I'm personally not the biggest fan)
  90. daniel +1 on the jingle PR
  91. jonas’ anyone else?
  92. Ge0rG re PR #1014 I'm essentially waiting for a list discussion by WebRTC greybeards
  93. dwd Well, I won't veto ATM. +0 I suppose.
  94. Ge0rG somebody promised to bring it up
  95. jonas’ not me, I hope?
  96. Ge0rG I'm not a fan of ATM either, but I'm also not a fan of OMEMO, so this cancels out
  97. dwd Ge0rG, 1014 has been updated with a conversation on the PR.
  98. daniel i don’t think that atm will solve the problems that are in OMEMO
  99. daniel but i'm ready to be proven wrong
  100. Ge0rG it will solve a part of the biggest usability problem.
  101. daniel it will be implemented regardless (there is funding) as i understand it. so it's good to have it under xsf ip
  102. daniel Ge0rG, i'm not convinced it will. and/or that there arent other solutions that are easier to implement
  103. daniel but this is getting off topic probably
  104. jonas’ right
  105. jonas’ moving on
  106. jonas’ 6) Date of Next
  107. jonas’ +1w wfm
  108. daniel +1w wfm
  109. Zash +1w wfm
  110. dwd Same here.
  111. jonas’ note that I’m probably not going to be around the week thereafter (2020-12-23) and maybe also not the week after that (2020-12-30)
  112. Ge0rG +1w wfm
  113. jonas’ 7) AOB
  114. dwd jonas’, Probably true in both cases for me.
  115. jonas’ I expected as much
  116. daniel i'm going to be around (where else am i supposed to go with the pandemic and all). but i'll welcome the time off
  117. Zash Note: I'm a bit email-handicaped atm, might have to relay votes via XMPP or someone IPv6-capable.
  118. dwd I've not looked at XEP-0001 and Counil voting yet.
  119. Link Mauve Ge0rG, re #1014, I updated it to do only the changes that were already part of the RFC.
  120. dwd (Which I had promised to do).
  121. Zash (Actually: The XSF mailing list is IPv6-hadicapped)
  122. Link Mauve And fippo agreed.
  123. jonas’ dwd, noted, thanks
  124. jonas’ Zash, can you send me a message I can send to iteam@ for someone to look at?
  125. jonas’ re the IPv6 issue
  126. dwd I'd also like to say how grateful I am that in the spirit of inclusionalism, we seem to have some kind of great ape interjecting in the ATM proposal with "Oook" every now and then.
  127. jonas’ hah
  128. jonas’ any other AOB?
  129. Ge0rG dwd: you shouldn't call the Librarian an ape.
  130. jonas’ alright
  131. jonas’ 8) Ite Meeting Est
  132. jonas’ thanks everyone
  133. dwd Thanks jonas’
  134. jonas’ Ge0rG, I refer you to the headers of any of my recent emails in that regard
  135. Zash Thanks all
  136. Ge0rG jonas’: I used to have those on my webserver a loooong time ago.
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  138. jonas’ it’s not that long that this specific message made sense
  139. jonas’ Ge0rG, in that regard, I’ll also refer you to `curl -I https://search.jabber.network`
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  141. Ge0rG jonas’: keep up the spirit!
  142. Ge0rG and five years are an eternity in IT terms
  143. Zash ITerms
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  145. jonas’ Ge0rG, FIVE YEARS??
  146. jonas’ holy smokes
  147. Ge0rG March 2015. I was on vacation and almost missed it.
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  149. Zash What's that, 15 years in 2020 time?
  150. jonas’ Zash, that sounds about right
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