XMPP Council - 2020-12-09

Where's the Spreadsheet of Doom these days?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KyQCSGAsP-nHmH1X_EQOO-MfMzqSMxgBYGRlloAhxxY

Zash, ^

Thanks

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Trying to get csv out

I needed to ask for access - you might want to turn link sharing on.

Yes.

I'm going to be two minutes late

1) Roll Call

Bacon please.

sorry, no bacon here

Does not compute.

Here

You have bacon. You eat bacon. You have no more bacon. This is the way of things.

my wifi has something about bacon frames.

quorum!

2) Agenda Bashing

anything?

I liked it

cool

I'm here. Sorry

3) Editor’s Update * New ProtoXEP: Stanza Multiplexing

4) Items for voting

4a) Proposed XMPP Extension: Stanza Multiplexing URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/mux.html Abstract: This spec provides a mechanism for multiplexing multiple virtual hosts over a single XMPP session.

on-list

on list

I liked MUX, but I'm sure that the Montagues and the Capulets won't ever co-host on the same server.

on list

Ge0rG, it’s all in the cloud nowadays

(is that a +1?)

Also the IQ is missing an ID of the domain to be authenticated

+1

I think there's a ton of stuff that needs fixing here, but nothing preventing us taking it onto Experimental, so +1.

so if you have multiple parallel MUXes going on, the IQs will be racy.

5) Pending Votes

there are a lot

I didn’t get around to catch up on voting this week, so no news from me

anyone wants to cast votes?

The Jingle change has been updated, and I am now +1.

Haven't had a chance to look closer at my pending items yet.

+1 on ATM

+1 on ATM (even though I'm personally not the biggest fan)

+1 on the jingle PR

anyone else?

re PR #1014 I'm essentially waiting for a list discussion by WebRTC greybeards

Well, I won't veto ATM. +0 I suppose.

somebody promised to bring it up

not me, I hope?

I'm not a fan of ATM either, but I'm also not a fan of OMEMO, so this cancels out

Ge0rG, 1014 has been updated with a conversation on the PR.

i don’t think that atm will solve the problems that are in OMEMO

but i'm ready to be proven wrong

it will solve a part of the biggest usability problem.

it will be implemented regardless (there is funding) as i understand it. so it's good to have it under xsf ip

Ge0rG, i'm not convinced it will. and/or that there arent other solutions that are easier to implement

but this is getting off topic probably

right

moving on

6) Date of Next

+1w wfm

+1w wfm

+1w wfm

Same here.

note that I’m probably not going to be around the week thereafter (2020-12-23) and maybe also not the week after that (2020-12-30)

+1w wfm

7) AOB

jonas’, Probably true in both cases for me.

I expected as much

i'm going to be around (where else am i supposed to go with the pandemic and all). but i'll welcome the time off

Note: I'm a bit email-handicaped atm, might have to relay votes via XMPP or someone IPv6-capable.

I've not looked at XEP-0001 and Counil voting yet.

Ge0rG, re #1014, I updated it to do only the changes that were already part of the RFC.

(Which I had promised to do).

(Actually: The XSF mailing list is IPv6-hadicapped)

And fippo agreed.

dwd, noted, thanks

Zash, can you send me a message I can send to iteam@ for someone to look at?

re the IPv6 issue

I'd also like to say how grateful I am that in the spirit of inclusionalism, we seem to have some kind of great ape interjecting in the ATM proposal with "Oook" every now and then.

hah

any other AOB?

dwd: you shouldn't call the Librarian an ape.

alright

8) Ite Meeting Est

thanks everyone

Thanks jonas’

Ge0rG, I refer you to the headers of any of my recent emails in that regard

Thanks all

jonas’: I used to have those on my webserver a loooong time ago.

it’s not that long that this specific message made sense

Ge0rG, in that regard, I’ll also refer you to `curl -I https://search.jabber.network`

jonas’: keep up the spirit!

and five years are an eternity in IT terms

ITerms

Ge0rG, FIVE YEARS??

holy smokes

March 2015. I was on vacation and almost missed it.

What's that, 15 years in 2020 time?

Zash, that sounds about right