XMPP Council - 2021-01-20


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  123. jonas’ 1) Roll Call
  124. Ge0rG Good morning everybody!
  125. Zash Hey
  126. jonas’ ITYM have a nice the-internet-is-on-fire day
  127. Ge0rG I haven't noticed any of that yet
  128. Ge0rG All my phone conferences went well and I didn't have a yax.im meltdown
  129. jonas’ dnsmasq?
  130. jonas’ anyway, do we get a daniel or a dwd?
  131. daniel Hi
  132. dwd Hey. Hiya.
  133. jonas’ awesome
  134. jonas’ 2) Agenda Bashing
  135. jonas’ anything?
  136. Ge0rG jonas’: I'm sure the dnsmasq thing will result in a large amount of DDoS and some clownflare self-promotion later down the stream
  137. Ge0rG </eot>
  138. Ge0rG It's a good agenda
  139. jonas’ assuming nothing
  140. jonas’ 3) Editor’s Update - Proposed XMPP Extensions: - Service Outage Status - New XEPs: - XEP-0451 (Stanza Multiplexing)
  141. jonas’ (yeah, I forgot to send out the emails, they’re there now)
  142. jonas’ 4) Items for voting
  143. jonas’ 4a) Proposed XMPP Extension: Service Outage Status URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/service-outage-status.html Abstract: This document defines an XMPP protocol extension that enables a server to communicate issues with the server to all users in a semantic manner.
  144. Ge0rG +1
  145. jonas’ +1, I’ll send a few notes to the list
  146. daniel on list
  147. Ge0rG No idea about the PubSub parts though.
  148. dwd on-list, sorry, been silly busy this week.
  149. Zash on list
  150. jonas’ thanks
  151. jonas’ 5) Pending Votes
  152. Ge0rG > This information MUST be scoped using a FORM_TYPE of "urn:xmpp:tmp:sos" I'm not sure if that text in §2 mandates actually implementing that feature
  153. jonas’ I am +1 on MUC Mention Notifications, +1 on DOAP usage in XMPP and +1 on OMEMO Media Sharing (but that I already said last week)
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  155. Ge0rG Was there any news from the Council Process Taskforce regarding submitting a Historical XEP?
  156. dwd I think people agreed Historical sounded sensible, didn't they?
  157. jonas’ other pending votes: - Ge0rG on MUC mention notifications (expiring today) - dwd and Zash on DOAP usage in XMPP (unless I missed anything in that huge thread, expiring next week) - dwd, Ge0rG, Zash on OMEMO Media Sharing (expiring next week)
  158. Ge0rG jonas’: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2021-January/038087.html
  159. jonas’ Ge0rG, nobody objects Historical
  160. jonas’ Ge0rG, thanks!
  161. Ge0rG And the IPR issue was resolved on record, I presume
  162. Ge0rG +1 for https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/omemo-media-sharing.html then
  163. jonas’ Ge0rG, it was
  164. jonas’ well done, Ge0rG is now pending-vote-free
  165. Ge0rG Yay!
  166. jonas’ hands Ge0rG one of those 🏅
  167. dwd So, I'm +1 for the OMEMO sharing one.
  168. jonas’ dwd, recorded, thanks
  169. dwd I'm +1 for the DOAP one, but I note that I think we should tidy it up a bit, change the namespace used to an XSF one, and suchlike. I mean, I wouldn't want people charging off and doing this "as-is" quite yet.
  170. jonas’ Ge0rG, FWIW, reading your email, I think all what you outline is exactly what Experimental should be for, IMO.
  171. Zash dwd, too late!
  172. jonas’ Link Mauve, cc what dwd wrote above
  173. jonas’ dwd, thanks
  174. Link Mauve Ta. :)
  175. dwd I'm not sure I understood the implications of the SupportedXep XML blob within RDF, but then, I'm no RDF expert anyway.
  176. Ge0rG jonas’: I am aware of that, but my suggestions are essentially "use a very small subset of this to implement a different use-case"
  177. Zash RDF being RDF
  178. dwd Zash, Well I assume experimental usage is experimental, so...
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  180. Ge0rG jonas’: maybe I don't get the use-case of the submission and it's doing what it was supposed to do in the form it was submitted
  181. jonas’ Ge0rG, maybe
  182. jonas’ Ge0rG, I personally think that this will see a lot of work to refine it, which is OK IMO
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  184. jonas’ Zash, any votes from you in this meeting?
  185. Ge0rG jonas’: well yes; I'm not blocking it, I'm merely sticking a finger into the air and waving energetically
  186. jonas’ Ge0rG, that’s right
  187. Zash jonas’: No.
  188. jonas’ Zash, thanks
  189. jonas’ moving on then
  190. jonas’ 6) Date of Next
  191. jonas’ +1w wfm
  192. daniel +1w wfm
  193. Zash +1w wfm
  194. Ge0rG +1w wfm
  195. jonas’ that’s a quorum.
  196. jonas’ 7) AOB
  197. Zash None from me.
  198. jonas’ I got nothing, does anyone else have anything?
  199. dwd Nope.
  200. jonas’ see noone sending out typing notifcations, assuming nothing else
  201. jonas’ 8) Ite Meeting Est
  202. jonas’ thanks everyone, stay alive and sane
  203. Ge0rG thanks and good night
  204. Zash Thanks
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