XMPP Council - 2021-01-20

1) Roll Call

Good morning everybody!

Hey

ITYM have a nice the-internet-is-on-fire day

I haven't noticed any of that yet

All my phone conferences went well and I didn't have a yax.im meltdown

dnsmasq?

anyway, do we get a daniel or a dwd?

Hi

Hey. Hiya.

awesome

2) Agenda Bashing

anything?

jonas’: I'm sure the dnsmasq thing will result in a large amount of DDoS and some clownflare self-promotion later down the stream

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It's a good agenda

assuming nothing

3) Editor’s Update - Proposed XMPP Extensions: - Service Outage Status - New XEPs: - XEP-0451 (Stanza Multiplexing)

(yeah, I forgot to send out the emails, they’re there now)

4) Items for voting

4a) Proposed XMPP Extension: Service Outage Status URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/service-outage-status.html Abstract: This document defines an XMPP protocol extension that enables a server to communicate issues with the server to all users in a semantic manner.

+1

+1, I’ll send a few notes to the list

on list

No idea about the PubSub parts though.

on-list, sorry, been silly busy this week.

on list

thanks

5) Pending Votes

> This information MUST be scoped using a FORM_TYPE of "urn:xmpp:tmp:sos" I'm not sure if that text in §2 mandates actually implementing that feature

I am +1 on MUC Mention Notifications, +1 on DOAP usage in XMPP and +1 on OMEMO Media Sharing (but that I already said last week)

Was there any news from the Council Process Taskforce regarding submitting a Historical XEP?

I think people agreed Historical sounded sensible, didn't they?

other pending votes: - Ge0rG on MUC mention notifications (expiring today) - dwd and Zash on DOAP usage in XMPP (unless I missed anything in that huge thread, expiring next week) - dwd, Ge0rG, Zash on OMEMO Media Sharing (expiring next week)

jonas’: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2021-January/038087.html

Ge0rG, nobody objects Historical

Ge0rG, thanks!

And the IPR issue was resolved on record, I presume

+1 for https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/omemo-media-sharing.html then

Ge0rG, it was

well done, Ge0rG is now pending-vote-free

Yay!

So, I'm +1 for the OMEMO sharing one.

dwd, recorded, thanks

I'm +1 for the DOAP one, but I note that I think we should tidy it up a bit, change the namespace used to an XSF one, and suchlike. I mean, I wouldn't want people charging off and doing this "as-is" quite yet.

Ge0rG, FWIW, reading your email, I think all what you outline is exactly what Experimental should be for, IMO.

dwd, too late!

Link Mauve, cc what dwd wrote above

dwd, thanks

Ta. :)

I'm not sure I understood the implications of the SupportedXep XML blob within RDF, but then, I'm no RDF expert anyway.

jonas’: I am aware of that, but my suggestions are essentially "use a very small subset of this to implement a different use-case"

RDF being RDF

Zash, Well I assume experimental usage is experimental, so...

jonas’: maybe I don't get the use-case of the submission and it's doing what it was supposed to do in the form it was submitted

Ge0rG, maybe

Ge0rG, I personally think that this will see a lot of work to refine it, which is OK IMO

Zash, any votes from you in this meeting?

jonas’: well yes; I'm not blocking it, I'm merely sticking a finger into the air and waving energetically

Ge0rG, that’s right

jonas’: No.

Zash, thanks

moving on then

6) Date of Next

+1w wfm

+1w wfm

+1w wfm

+1w wfm

that’s a quorum.

7) AOB

None from me.

I got nothing, does anyone else have anything?

Nope.

see noone sending out typing notifcations, assuming nothing else

8) Ite Meeting Est

thanks everyone, stay alive and sane

thanks and good night

Thanks