XMPP Council - 2021-01-20


  1. jonas’ 1) Roll Call
  2. Ge0rG Good morning everybody!
  3. Zash Hey
  4. jonas’ ITYM have a nice the-internet-is-on-fire day
  5. Ge0rG I haven't noticed any of that yet
  6. Ge0rG All my phone conferences went well and I didn't have a yax.im meltdown
  7. jonas’ dnsmasq?
  8. jonas’ anyway, do we get a daniel or a dwd?
  9. daniel Hi
  10. dwd Hey. Hiya.
  11. jonas’ awesome
  12. jonas’ 2) Agenda Bashing
  13. jonas’ anything?
  14. Ge0rG jonas’: I'm sure the dnsmasq thing will result in a large amount of DDoS and some clownflare self-promotion later down the stream
  15. Ge0rG </eot>
  16. Ge0rG It's a good agenda
  17. jonas’ assuming nothing
  18. jonas’ 3) Editor’s Update - Proposed XMPP Extensions: - Service Outage Status - New XEPs: - XEP-0451 (Stanza Multiplexing)
  19. jonas’ (yeah, I forgot to send out the emails, they’re there now)
  20. jonas’ 4) Items for voting
  21. jonas’ 4a) Proposed XMPP Extension: Service Outage Status URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/service-outage-status.html Abstract: This document defines an XMPP protocol extension that enables a server to communicate issues with the server to all users in a semantic manner.
  22. Ge0rG +1
  23. jonas’ +1, I’ll send a few notes to the list
  24. daniel on list
  25. Ge0rG No idea about the PubSub parts though.
  26. dwd on-list, sorry, been silly busy this week.
  27. Zash on list
  28. jonas’ thanks
  29. jonas’ 5) Pending Votes
  30. Ge0rG > This information MUST be scoped using a FORM_TYPE of "urn:xmpp:tmp:sos" I'm not sure if that text in §2 mandates actually implementing that feature
  31. jonas’ I am +1 on MUC Mention Notifications, +1 on DOAP usage in XMPP and +1 on OMEMO Media Sharing (but that I already said last week)
  32. Ge0rG Was there any news from the Council Process Taskforce regarding submitting a Historical XEP?
  33. dwd I think people agreed Historical sounded sensible, didn't they?
  34. jonas’ other pending votes: - Ge0rG on MUC mention notifications (expiring today) - dwd and Zash on DOAP usage in XMPP (unless I missed anything in that huge thread, expiring next week) - dwd, Ge0rG, Zash on OMEMO Media Sharing (expiring next week)
  35. Ge0rG jonas’: https://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/standards/2021-January/038087.html
  36. jonas’ Ge0rG, nobody objects Historical
  37. jonas’ Ge0rG, thanks!
  38. Ge0rG And the IPR issue was resolved on record, I presume
  39. Ge0rG +1 for https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/omemo-media-sharing.html then
  40. jonas’ Ge0rG, it was
  41. jonas’ well done, Ge0rG is now pending-vote-free
  42. Ge0rG Yay!
  43. jonas’ hands Ge0rG one of those 🏅
  44. dwd So, I'm +1 for the OMEMO sharing one.
  45. jonas’ dwd, recorded, thanks
  46. dwd I'm +1 for the DOAP one, but I note that I think we should tidy it up a bit, change the namespace used to an XSF one, and suchlike. I mean, I wouldn't want people charging off and doing this "as-is" quite yet.
  47. jonas’ Ge0rG, FWIW, reading your email, I think all what you outline is exactly what Experimental should be for, IMO.
  48. Zash dwd, too late!
  49. jonas’ Link Mauve, cc what dwd wrote above
  50. jonas’ dwd, thanks
  51. Link Mauve Ta. :)
  52. dwd I'm not sure I understood the implications of the SupportedXep XML blob within RDF, but then, I'm no RDF expert anyway.
  53. Ge0rG jonas’: I am aware of that, but my suggestions are essentially "use a very small subset of this to implement a different use-case"
  54. Zash RDF being RDF
  55. dwd Zash, Well I assume experimental usage is experimental, so...
  56. Ge0rG jonas’: maybe I don't get the use-case of the submission and it's doing what it was supposed to do in the form it was submitted
  57. jonas’ Ge0rG, maybe
  58. jonas’ Ge0rG, I personally think that this will see a lot of work to refine it, which is OK IMO
  59. jonas’ Zash, any votes from you in this meeting?
  60. Ge0rG jonas’: well yes; I'm not blocking it, I'm merely sticking a finger into the air and waving energetically
  61. jonas’ Ge0rG, that’s right
  62. Zash jonas’: No.
  63. jonas’ Zash, thanks
  64. jonas’ moving on then
  65. jonas’ 6) Date of Next
  66. jonas’ +1w wfm
  67. daniel +1w wfm
  68. Zash +1w wfm
  69. Ge0rG +1w wfm
  70. jonas’ that’s a quorum.
  71. jonas’ 7) AOB
  72. Zash None from me.
  73. jonas’ I got nothing, does anyone else have anything?
  74. dwd Nope.
  75. jonas’ see noone sending out typing notifcations, assuming nothing else
  76. jonas’ 8) Ite Meeting Est
  77. jonas’ thanks everyone, stay alive and sane
  78. Ge0rG thanks and good night
  79. Zash Thanks