XMPP Council - 2021-03-17

1) Roll Call

Is it time, already?

it is!

daniel, dwd ( Ge0rG maybe?)

we have a Ge0rG

oh

i'm here

Hey.

\o/

2) Agenda Bashing

Ge0rG wanted to add issuing and shepherding a '280 LC to the agenda

which we shall hereby do

That

any other amendments?

none here

also, if anyone has any AOB, just shout throughout the meeting so that we can avoid the awkward silence in the end :)

(thanks to dwd for that idea)

3) Editor’s Update

LC for '313 issued, please respond

4) Items for voting

4a) Issue LC for XEP-0280 with Ge0rG as shepherd

+1

jonas’: well, technically that's not quite what I asked for.

I think we don’t *have* to formally vote on this necessarily, but it is borderline to an author addition so I want to play this safe

Ge0rG, it is not?

+1

then please clarify

jonas’: I wanted to become *the* author of the document.

ah well

THE

did you contact the current authors already?

Either, both.

jonas’: it was discussed on standards@

look at that, I missed it

*skimming*

ok, so Joe ACKed, we’d just have to get hold of Matthew Miller or force remove them. I never had any interactions with them, so I don’t know how reachable they’d be

Becoming *The* author would be unusual. Our SOP is to add unless the original author asked to be removed.

Well, not technically the *author* but the maintainer. Whatever that means in terms of ordering names on the frontpage.

Is there any reason to remove them?

Kev: no

right

so, let me rephrase

Then I suggest Council says “Thanks Georg, welcome to the author list”.

4a') Add Ge0rG to the XEP-0280 authors

How is that different from shepherd then?

Zash: the shepherd is a temporary position AFAICT

+1 to that too.

+1

Zash: Shepherd just gets through the standards process.

+1

+1

Zash, doesn’t matter if it gets accepted, but if it transitions back to Experimental it matters

Shepherd is not as good for acknowledgement.

I can't put "shepherd" on my CV

I can, kind of

but in a very different way

(scnr)

jonas’: but you are shepherd of all XEPs.

XEPherd?

Is there a hoodie for that?

daniel, vote?

There's a yak joke somewhere, I can feel it.

+1

thanks

anything to vote on re LC?

Ge0rG, then please go ahead and make the changes you’d like to make to '280, adding yourself as the author

no, LC is requested by the author

Hereby I formally ask ~Council~ The Editor to do a Last Call of 0280. ✏

Ge0rG, you’re not an author of that doc… nevermind ;)

will do, soon™

5) Pending Votes

PR#1044 had some discussion on-list

https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1044

AFAIK, we’re still missing votes from Ge0rG, dwd and me

Yes. Was that hidden in the council minutes thread?

was what hidden?

Ah, no. A real thread!

yeah, crazy, I know

Thanks fippo! I'll read it up ASAP.

+1

I am +1 based on the lack of negative feedback and the presence of that positive feedback and my own judgement about the addition being "probably fine"

Ge0rG, I take that as "no vote in this meeting"? ✏

jonas’: yes, sorry.

no worries

6) Date of Next

I *think* +1W will be fine. But I might be caught in traffic right at that time.

+1W WFM

Anyway, I'll try to vote PR#1044 before that.

+1w likely wfm, there will be some (physical) installation happening here, so I might get pulled out

+1w wfm

+1w wfm

\o/

7) AOB

I didn’t hear anyone shout during the meeting soooo ....

8) Ite Meeting Est

thanks everyone, thanks Tedd

Thanks jonas’. Thanks Tedd. Thanks all.

Wow, I missed the awkward silence.

Thanks jonas’

quick note that we’ll have DST in europe between next week and the week thereafter

OH no

doesn’t affect next week’s scheduling

I thought the EU set out to abolish DST?

I think covid pulled resources away from that endeavour

Det bidde inget. 🙁

"bidde"?

variant of "blev"

It happened not.