XMPP Council - 2021-06-30

  1. jonas’

    1) Roll Call

  2. Zash


  3. dwd


  4. jonas’


  5. jonas’

    2) Agenda Bashing

  6. Zash

    The Agenda is missing "tacos"

  7. jonas’

    tacos would be nice

  8. jonas’

    I don’t have any though, so you don’t get any either

  9. dwd

    Is that a new operating system?

  10. jonas’

    3) Editor’s Update * Proposed XMPP Extension: Moved 2

  11. daniel


  12. daniel

    I think we can just continue with a new XEP

  13. jonas’

    4) Items for voting

  14. jonas’

    4a) PR#1064: XEP-0227: New revision 1.1 URL: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1064 Re-vote as it was modified during voting.

  15. jonas’

    there was a minor change, so we have to re-vote

  16. jonas’

    I am +1 though

  17. dwd

    I am +1 too.

  18. daniel


  19. Zash

    +1, but see my post to the list

  20. jonas’

    there has been some feedback on-list or elsewhere to also include PEP affiliations and stuff, but my feeling is that this can be done in another update with more newly namespaced elements

  21. Zash

    jonas’, same.

  22. jonas’


  23. jonas’

    Ge0rG is allegedly drugged, so let’s move on

  24. jonas’

    4b) Proposed XMPP Extension: Moved 2 URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/moved2.html Abstract: This specification details a way for a user to notify their contacts about an account move.

  25. daniel


  26. jonas’

    I cnotacted the author of Moved 1.0, and haven’t heard back yet

  27. Ge0rG

    Oh, hi

  28. Ge0rG

    +1 on 4b

  29. daniel

    i don’t see any upsides of taking over Moved 1.0

  30. jonas’

    I would prefer getting this merged into the existing moved XEP over creating a fresh one, especially since it is really similar

  31. Ge0rG

    What jonas’ said.

  32. Zash


  33. Ge0rG

    We already have too many ways to do one thing.

  34. dwd

    Yeah, I think I'd be happier just changing the existing.

  35. dwd

    I don't think there's huge implementation of the other one is there?

  36. Zash

    I'm neutral on new vs replace.

  37. Ge0rG

    I've had a discussion of the shortcomings I see in Moved 2 with jonas’ and the author over in the xsf@ room.

  38. Ge0rG

    It would be great if somebody could on-list that.

  39. jonas’

    I am +1 for overwriting Moved 1.0 and granting authorship to MattJ, but I’d like to give the original author another week to reply to my email.

  40. Ge0rG

    jonas’: +1 to that

  41. Zash


  42. jonas’

    I don’t want to vote on accepting as Experimental before that reply

  43. jonas’

    dwd, do you want to cast a vote?

  44. jonas’

    (also Zash)

  45. jonas’

    ~(also Zash)~

  46. dwd

    XEP-0283 hasn't had an update in nearly three years; it feels like that could be updated with the contents of this one.

  47. daniel

    10 years rather

  48. dwd

    And I, like you, am happy to wait to find out if that's a sensible option.

  49. daniel


  50. dwd

    Oh, yes, trivial typo in 2018...

  51. jonas’

    ok, then, moving on

  52. Ge0rG

    Great, let's postpone this for a week in case the Moved author comes back, and reassign the XEP if not

  53. jonas’

    5) Pending Votes None, except for those from today.

  54. dwd

    In that case I'm leaning toward vetoing this one in favour of updating XEP-0283.

  55. jonas’

    dwd, which we can just make a thing we let the editor do, no need to do a full round trip

  56. jonas’

    6) Date of Next

  57. jonas’

    +1w wfm

  58. Zash

    +1 wfm

  59. dwd

    jonas’, Indeed so.

  60. daniel

    +1w wfm

  61. dwd

    +1 wfm

  62. Ge0rG

    No guarantee on next week yet

  63. jonas’

    (sorry, lots of things happening at the same time right now)

  64. jonas’

    7) AOB

  65. jonas’

    has anyone got any?

  66. Zash

    not me

  67. jonas’

    8) Ite Meeting Est

  68. jonas’

    thanks everyone

  69. Zash

    Thanks jonas’, all

  70. dwd

    jonas’, Thanks!

  71. Ge0rG

    Thank you very much, jonas’