XMPP Council - 2021-07-07

FYI: I may be on mobile around the time of the meeting, not sure I'll have network at all.

I might be late.

I got a reply from the Moved author last night :)

they’re fine with someone else taking over

Awesome!

(this room needs an avatar)

Yes

1) Roll Call

Hi

do we get a dwd?

let’s hope so

2) Agenda Bashing

Hi!

I’ll inject a new agendum in 4) to re-vote on Moved 2.0, this time folding it into Moved as I got the original author’s consent and MattJ indicated that he’d also be fine with that folding.

any other modifications please raise while I move ahead

3) Editor’s Update

Nothing

4) Items for voting

4a) Merge Proposed XMPP Extension: Moved 2.0 into XEP-0283: Moved

+1

+1

Well, no, what we need to do is agree to make MattJ the author of XEP-0283

Tory replied to my email this morning and agreed with that operation, leaving it up to MattJ ("the new author") to decide how to further acknowledge him.

Making MattJ the author means that he can make the changes "anyway", without any further voting from us.

Merge meaning complely replace?

daniel, yes

well, I’d talk to MattJ about that, regarding acknowledgement specifically, and the editor will merge the revision history accordingly

dwd, you’re right, let’s do that and let the rest be between the Editor and MattJ

it’s sometimes confusing to me

Me too. :-)

+0 (I think if it's not a real change but more a completely new xep it should have been a new number (possibly obsoleting the old one)) but I won't block it

4a') Add MattJ as author of XEP-0283: Moved Plus allowing the subsequent move of Tory to the Acknowledgements section as deemed appropriate by MattJ.

+1 to 4a'

+1 to that.

+1

+0 (same reasoning as above)

Ge0rG, ?

+1

thank you

5) Pending Votes

I vote -1 on Proposed XMPP Extension: Moved 2 under the assumption that it’ll be handled in '283 from here on. Should that change for whatever reason, I’m open to revote.

Ge0rG, you are pending on https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1064 / PR#1064: XEP-0227: New revision 1.1, any news there?

jonas’: sorry, no.

thanks

dwd, wanna formally vote on Moved 2.0?

I could give an uninformed +0 or take some more time to catch up

Oh, I can veto it on the basis of the above, yes.

dwd, thanks

6) Date of Next

+1w wfm

We do have semantics for XEPs that replace other XEPs, so eh, either way

+1W probably okay

+1w wfm

fm, +1w w

+1 +1w wfm.

excellent

7) AOB

7a) This room needs an avatar

any suggestions? :)

XSF logo + something seems appropriate

the XSF does have a logo?

I thought we only have the XMPP logo

but yes, that would be appropriate, the question is what that "something" could be :)

https://www.bing.com/images/blob?bcid=RNM4CPAhQ.QCBPhFmdtbQsRO2ZTy.....x0

XMPP logo then. Either way

I'd suggest a gray beard, but I've heard those have become sexist. What about a scroll?

dwd, that gives a blank page for me

Oh, disappointing.

SPQR but XMPP themed

fun ideas, if anyone comes up with a png or svg we can put on, that’d be great.

An antique scroll with the word "standard" written on it in some dead language.

or in many! xml:lang!

https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/Grey_Council (image from there)

Council and Members of XMPP

dwd, that would confuse me for work related reasons :)

OK, now I'm curious.

some people like their babylon 5 references when naming recurring meetings

either way, I guess we can stew on this question outside of the formal meeting

any other AOB?

assuming none

None from me.

Image search "conspiracy", roll a dice and pick that numbered result

8) Ite Meeting Est

thanks everyone!

Thanks jonas’, all

Maybe there is some good comic depiction of the Auditors of Reality? That would better fit our Shakespeare theme.

Thanks cat for company (see other chat for cat)