XMPP Council - 2021-07-14

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  57. jonas’ 1) Roll Call
  58. Zash Oh, right, Wednesday. Here.
  59. daniel hi
  60. jonas’ do we get a dwd and/or a Ge0rG?
  61. dwd Hi, I am here but in a overrunning meeting.
  62. jonas’ ok, I’ll go through the standard stuff first anyway :)
  63. jonas’ 2) Agenda Bashing
  64. Ge0rG I'm not quite here.
  65. jonas’ Ge0rG, ok
  66. jonas’ if you have any addenda to the agenda, let me know inline
  67. jonas’ 3) Editor’s Update * Deferrals have been executed and will be dissiminated to the list in a few days to not drown out other updates. Thanks Sam for the reminder. * LCs for XEP-0429 and XEP-0381 have expired last year and Council never voted on it apparently. * Moved 2.0 vs 1.0 will be taken care of by the Editor and MattJ.
  68. jonas’ 4) Items for voting
  69. jonas’ Notice: the PR#1064 has been updated again during the voting period to incorporate list feedback. I take this as our fault as we did not adhere to the "only vote on it after list discussion has settled down" policy we put into place a while back :)
  70. jonas’ We'll wait for list feedback this time to not vote on this over and over again.
  71. jonas’ moving on
  72. jonas’ 4a) Decide on Advancement of XEP-0381 Title: XEP-0381: Internet of Things Special Interest Group (IoT SIG) URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0381.html Abstract: This document proposes the formation of a Special Interest Group SIG) within the XSF devoted to the application of XMPP technologies to the Internet of Things (IoT).
  73. jonas’ this one had an LC in december 2020 and we probably missed the LC expiration over the holidays
  74. Zash Was anything said about it on the list?
  75. jonas’ yes
  76. Ge0rG Is the IoT WG still functional?
  77. jonas’ debacle said he'd like to participate
  78. jonas’ (he also reiterated that privately to me in response to the agenda)
  79. jonas’ a bunch of people hang out in iot@muc.xmpp.org, too
  80. Ge0rG +1 then
  81. jonas’ do we have any measures in place which actually keep track of SIG members?
  82. Zash Is that our job?
  83. jonas’ who will we talk to when it comes to "have the deliverables actually been delivered"?
  84. jonas’ who will we talk to when it comes to "have the deliverables actually been delivered?"?
  85. jonas’ 'cause the XEP talks about deliverables.
  86. Zash There were a bunch of XEPs in the past
  87. Zash Retracted?
  88. MattJ As a person who hangs out in iot@, I'm not sure why this SIG is coming up now, or what it's intended to achieve
  89. jonas’ are we going to treat the SIG as "a reason to get XSF resources like a MUC and a list allocated and otherwise we don't care much unless it becomes a problem"?
  90. MattJ Maybe but note: we already have a MUC :)
  91. MattJ and I think there used to be a list?
  92. jonas’ MattJ, someone triggered an LC of the XEP in dec 2020 or so, and it expired and we forgot to vote on it over half a year back
  93. jonas’ no other reason :)
  94. jonas’ I'm aware that resources have been allocated already, just wondering what a SIG should mean to us, as council.
  95. MattJ Subject: [Standards] Meeting Minutes of the XMPP IoT SIG from 2017-03-29
  96. jonas’ well
  97. jonas’ it seems to exist somewhat :D
  98. jonas’ or have existed
  99. MattJ Apparently so
  100. jonas’ either way, I take this as a formality now
  101. jonas’ +1
  102. Zash +1
  103. jonas’ Ge0rG, with all that has been said, do you stay with +1?
  104. Ge0rG +1
  105. daniel +1
  106. jonas’ assuming that dwd will vote once he catches up, moving on
  107. jonas’ 4b) Decide on Advancement of XEP-0429 Title: XEP-0429: Special Interests Group End to End Encryption URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0429.html Abstract: This document proposes the formation of a Special Interest Group (SIG) within the XSF devoted to the development of end-to-end encryption within the context of XMPP.
  108. jonas’ I think this is a similar situation
  109. jonas’ +1
  110. Zash +1
  111. jonas’ except that they didn’t get any resources yet I think
  112. Ge0rG +1
  113. daniel +1
  114. jonas’ thanks
  115. jonas’ same assumption about dwd still holds, moving on
  116. jonas’ 5) Pending Votes
  117. jonas’ pending vote has been cancelled, so we’re good there
  118. jonas’ 6) Date of Next
  119. jonas’ +1w wfm
  120. Zash +1w wfm
  121. daniel +1w wfm
  122. jonas’ Ge0rG?
  123. jonas’ well, hoping for the best
  124. jonas’ 7) AOB
  125. jonas’ assuming none as nothing was mentioned
  126. jonas’ 8) Ite Meeting Est
  127. jonas’ thanks everyone
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  129. dwd Sorry about that; I've had one of those days where everything overran. +1 to both, but I can say that on list if that's easier.
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  136. jonas’ posting on the list is a good measure I guess
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