XMPP Council - 2021-07-21

  1. Ge0rG

    Oh, my appointment might actually end in time for the Auditors Meeting.

  2. dwd

    Similarly, I have yet to leave the office, so I can join after all.

  3. jonas’


  4. jonas’

    1) Roll Call

  5. Ge0rG just left the other meeting

  6. dwd


  7. Zash


  8. jonas’

    do we get a daniel?

  9. daniel


  10. jonas’


  11. jonas’

    2) Agenda Bashing

  12. jonas’

    as usual, note if you have anything to modify during the meeting, as well as for AOB

  13. jonas’

    3) Editor's Update

  14. jonas’

    * Deferrals have been executed and … well have been sent all at once today. Sorry. * Proposed XMPP Extension: Pubsub Caching Hints

  15. jonas’

    4) Items for Voting

  16. dwd

    I noticed a deferral or two.

  17. jonas’

    just one or two? ;)

  18. jonas’

    4a) Proposed XMPP Extension: Pubsub Caching Hints URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/pubsub-caching-hints.html Abstract: This specification provides a way to get caching information from a Pubsub node

  19. jonas’

    I haven't read it yet, so on-list.

  20. Ge0rG

    on-list as well

  21. dwd

    +1 to publishing this.

  22. daniel

    On list

  23. Ge0rG

    I got distracted by the PR#1064 reminder

  24. Zash


  25. jonas’

    reminds me, I lost track of that one

  26. jonas’

    ah, it's being discussed on list (more or less)

  27. jonas’

    ah, it (=PR#1064) is being discussed on list (more or less)

  28. jonas’

    (unrelated ^)

  29. jonas’

    ok, moving on

  30. jonas’

    5) Pending Votes

  31. jonas’

    none \o/

  32. jonas’

    6) Date of Next

  33. Ge0rG


  34. jonas’

    +1w wfm

  35. Ge0rG

    +1W WFM

  36. Zash

    +1w wfm

  37. dwd

    +1W WFM

  38. jonas’

    worst case our DC is in flames at that point, we're having a major upgrade. might be pulled into that, but I sure hope not

  39. Ge0rG

    Do we have anything to discuss regarding this room's logo?

  40. jonas’

    7) AOB

  41. jonas’

    7a) Room logo

  42. dwd

    [image of a shed with multiple bikes in]

  43. jonas’

    I don't have any strong opinions, it shouldn't be too silly or off-putting to newcomers though.

  44. jonas’

    dwd, hah

  45. jonas’

    though I think we're doing good on the bikeshedding front this term, standards@ is more of the venue where the bike party goes

  46. Ge0rG

    can we get some Auditors of Reality into the bike shed?

  47. jonas’

    could be tricky to fit into the 48pt x 48pt the average screen has for that

  48. jonas’

    why don't we have support for .ico in avatars anyway?

  49. Ge0rG

    Microsoft Patents?

  50. dwd

    True. Anyway, I'm easy - XMPP logo over a C? Whatever works.

  51. Zash

    C-shaped table with some chairs?

  52. jonas’

    that'd be a nice C

  53. jonas’

    now we just need a designer!

  54. Ge0rG

    Why C and not FORTRAN?

  55. jonas’


  56. jonas’


  57. jonas’

    we don't have any design resources AFAIK, so unless someone steps up and paints something, I don't think there's much we can do here

  58. jonas’

    unless we want to ask Board for resources to obtain a professional designer, but I think that'd be slight overkill

  59. jonas’

    7b) Minutes

  60. jonas’

    It seems that our good spirit Tedd is busy with other things, and we should still have minutes. I can start sending out some after each meeting from here on, however, it'd be good if we could somehow spread the load of converting old meetings. Is anyone up for that?

  61. dwd

    How many are we talking?

  62. jonas’

    every meeting since april, so I guess somewhere around 14-15 meetings

  63. dwd

    Oh, gosh, I hadn't realised. Do we know if Tedd is OK?

  64. jonas’

    I asked in april or so and they replied that they were just a bit busy and minutes would resume eventually

  65. jonas’

    MR 20210428T17:21:17Z 000 <jonas’>  I hope Tedd is alright MR 20210428T21:11:46Z 000 <theTedd>  jonas’, Tedd is alright ;) MR 20210428T21:11:55Z 000 <theTedd>  just been otherwise distracted MR 20210428T21:12:23Z 000 <theTedd>  minutes will magically appear, probably

  66. Ge0rG

    Praise the magic!

  67. dwd

    Ah, OK. In any case, yes, I can do some. I'll try to do so on Friday, and I'll post the dates I'm doing in here before I do each one.

  68. jonas’

    which, I can only reiterate, is just fine, they're not being paid for this and we don't even know their affiliation with the XMPP community beyond being the good fairy who wrote excellent minutes for multiple years straight.

  69. jonas’

    dwd, thanks!

  70. jonas’

    I'll do the same so that we can sync properly.

  71. jonas’

    so, thanks to Tedd for all the many many meetings of service. I hope you'll be okay and whenever you like to return writing minutes, you're welcome to :)

  72. jonas’

    7c) Floods

  73. jonas’

    as you may have heard, some parts of europe have been hit hard by floods

  74. jonas’

    some of us were closer than you'd like to those events

  75. jonas’

    this is just a general reminder in case you interact with anyone in the community who might be from the affected regions that they might be severely busy with other things right now.

  76. dwd

    Yes, good point.

  77. jonas’

    (and also if they are not from the affected regions but are volunteer helpers or have relatives there or somesuch)

  78. jonas’

    that's it from my side, anything else?

  79. jonas’

    taking the silence as a no

  80. jonas’

    8) Ite Meeting Est

  81. jonas’

    thanks everyone!

  82. Ge0rG

    Thanks jonas’

  83. dwd

    Thanks be to jonas’

  84. Zash

    Thanks jonas’, thanks all

  85. theTedd

    I was intending to be caught up on minutes next week and spam the list with Apr-Jul in one chunk ;)

  86. jonas’

    theTedd, do you have things in the buffer already? I don't see harm in spreading the load anyway, we could sync on progress here.

  87. jonas’

    but I'm glad you're alive in any case :)

  88. theTedd

    I'm part way through April, but not a lot happened from May, so they're low effort anyway