XMPP Council - 2021-07-28


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  133. Ge0rG Good evening.
  134. jonas’ 1) Roll Call
  135. daniel hi
  136. Zash hello
  137. Ge0rG
  138. jonas’ love the inconsistent rendering of that one
  139. jonas’ no dwd here nor elsewhere
  140. jonas’ pinged in 1:1, let's see if that helps
  141. jonas’ 2) Agenda Bashing
  142. jonas’ mention anything any time, especially AOBs
  143. jonas’ 3) Editor’s Update * Proposed XMPP Extension: Disco Feature Attachment
  144. jonas’ 4) Items for voting
  145. jonas’ 4a) Proposed XMPP Extension: Disco Feature Attachment URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/disco-feature-attachment.html Abstract: This specification provides a way to get caching information from a Pubsub node
  146. jonas’ not read it yet, on-list
  147. daniel on list
  148. Zash have read it, but not thought about it yet, so on-list
  149. flow side node: is the abstract not from goffi's other XEP?
  150. jonas’ oh
  151. Ge0rG on-list
  152. flow side node: is the abstract not from the author's other XEP?
  153. jonas’ I copy/paste failed in the agenda, thanks for the hint, flow
  154. flow yw
  155. jonas’ the actual document has the correct abstract :)
  156. jonas’ ok, moving forward
  157. jonas’ 4b) meta-data vs. metadata URL: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1092 This is a nasty one. There was a mass search&replace for metadata vs. meta-data in the past. The normative changes were reverted after they were discovered, but re-reverted before merge but after review of the corresponding PR.
  158. jonas’ that one made my head hurt
  159. daniel just merge it?
  160. jonas’ for reference, here's the one where things went wrong: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/710
  161. jonas’ daniel, what about implementations which picked up the wrong spelling?
  162. Zash I think at least one was discovered
  163. daniel well we have to pick either one or the other going forward. and the meta-data one has been around for more delta time I guess?
  164. Ge0rG That makes my head hurt, too
  165. daniel i mean it's not good that the #710 PR was merged. but that doesn’t mean we should keep it
  166. Zash daniel is correct, meta-data was the original one
  167. jonas’ I agree with daniel and Zash on that one, and I think it should be merged.
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  169. jonas’ +1 to the PR then
  170. jonas’ do you want to formally vote?
  171. jonas’ please formally vote
  172. daniel +1
  173. Zash This should probably be mentioned in the changelog, will that be added later?
  174. jonas’ yep
  175. jonas’ (I'm a bit slow, trying to fix s2s issues with dwd in parallel)
  176. Ge0rG +1
  177. Zash +1 then
  178. Zash 4/5 missing dwd
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  180. jonas’ dwd may join in a second
  181. Zash counts down from one second
  182. jonas’ :P
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  184. dwd-honestly I am defintely dwd.
  185. Ge0rG your hat doesn't look right
  186. dwd-honestly ‎28/07/2021 | 16:13:09 ‎Jonas'‎: secret: 8z6ZqmKiNXrqSx9x38XW9tfv ‎28/07/2021 | 16:13:18 ‎dwd‎: Paste it into the groupchat?
  187. jonas’ thanks!
  188. jonas’ dwd-honestly, do you have enough scrollback to do your votes?
  189. Zash There should be almost infinite MAM here.
  190. jonas’ also logs.xmpp.org :)
  191. dwd-honestly So, yeah.
  192. dwd-honestly 4a) +1, looks like a clean solution to an irritating problem, happy to iterate as needed in Experimental.
  193. dwd-honestly 4b) I'm almost tempted to claim this is Editorial, in as much as it's fixing an Editorial PR, but I see the issue. Sane thing to do is merge it, but is it worth sticking a note in somewhere?
  194. jonas’ I'd mention it in the changelog and hope that folks read the standards@ emails
  195. dwd-honestly So 4(b) is +1 from me with a suggestion.
  196. jonas’ dwd-honestly, is changelog note sufficient for you?
  197. jonas’ ... I assume notifications don't work properly and let dwd reply later on
  198. dwd-honestly As-is is sufficient for me. Any additional notes are purely a suggestion.
  199. jonas’ okay, thanks
  200. jonas’ 5) Pending Votes - Georg, Daniel and Jonas on ProtoXEP https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/pubsub-caching-hints.html
  201. jonas’ anyone wanna cast votes on this?
  202. jonas’ (daniel cast on-list)
  203. Ge0rG will cast on-list
  204. jonas’ me too, thanks
  205. jonas’ 6) Date of Next
  206. jonas’ +1w wfm
  207. Zash +1w wfm
  208. Ge0rG +1W WFM
  209. dwd-honestly +1wwfm if my S2S works next week.
  210. jonas’ :)
  211. jonas’ 7) AOB
  212. jonas’ assuming none since nobody said anything, unless dwd-honestly has some
  213. dwd-honestly I honestly don't.
  214. jonas’ well then
  215. Zash None
  216. jonas’ 8) Ite Meeting Est
  217. jonas’ thanks evreyone, sorry for the slowness
  218. dwd-honestly Thanks jonas’
  219. Zash jonas’: Can I give you a mission, go buy and eat ice cream!
  220. Ge0rG Zash: that's a great mission! Can I have it too?
  221. dwd-honestly Also, COnverse has improved greatly since I last had a serious play with it (which was about 2.5 years ago).
  222. Zash Ge0rG, sure. Let's all have ice cream! (I already had one)
  223. Ge0rG I'm waiting for my conference call that's 25 mins overdue to end
  224. jonas’ Zash, we still have ice cream in the freezer
  225. jonas’ but thanks for the reminder, I wanted to kick off the ice cream machine for some home made
  226. Zash HOME MADE WHAT
  227. jonas’ ice cream
  228. Zash All I have is home-made ice.
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