XMPP Council - 2021-12-01

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  87. Ge0rG

    So it looks like it's New Council Time!

  88. jonas’

    1) Roll Call

  89. daniel


  90. jonas’

    pinging larma and moparisthebest

  91. moparisthebest


  92. jonas’

    welcome moparisthebest

  93. jonas’

    let's give larma a few more minutes

  94. jonas’

    we're fortunately not in a hurry today, as there's nothing on the agenda except for chair election and date selection

  95. daniel

    Looks like the time slot is not working for larma...

  96. jonas’

    despite the confirmation

  97. jonas’

    well, something spontaneous can always come up

  98. jonas’

    let's slowly progress

  99. jonas’

    2) Welcome

  100. jonas’

    Welcome moparisthebest and larma to the council.

  101. moparisthebest

    thanks, happy to be here

  102. jonas’

    3) Chair Election

  103. jonas’

    we need a chair who'll lead the meetings, prepare an agenda in advance and in general act as the head of the comittee

  104. jonas’

    typically, this involves 30min of work a day or two before council

  105. jonas’

    in addition, the chair should stay on top (pun not intended) their own attendance and ensure that a replacement is agreed upon if they have to be absent

  106. jonas’

    do we have any volunteers?

  107. daniel

    jonas’ has done an excellent job. If he volunteers again I'll happily vote for him

  108. daniel

    If not I'll step forward

  109. jonas’

    [if moparisthebest or larma want to volunteer, I'd be happy to provide support during a transition]

  110. jonas’

    I'd generally prefer to take a hiatus with that this term.

  111. moparisthebest

    jonas did an excellent job last time

  112. jonas’

    so the offer is greatly appreciated, daniel.

  113. Ge0rG

    I agree with daniel, jonas’ has been managing this exceptionally well.

  114. jonas’

    thank you all for the praise :)

  115. larma

    Sorry my train was delayed

  116. jonas’

    larma, welcome :)

  117. jonas’

    larma, it's okay, are you available now?

  118. Ge0rG

    I wish I could afford the time and commitment, but this would not end well

  119. larma


  120. jonas’

    excellent :). I assume you got the scrollback nontheless and can join the discussion :)

  121. larma

    I'm not available for chair

  122. jonas’

    so as I am not standing, daniel is implicitly volunteering

  123. Ge0rG

    moparisthebest: what about you?

  124. moparisthebest

    I'll certainly vote for daniel :)

  125. Ge0rG

    moparisthebest: you could become chair as well :D

  126. moparisthebest

    I'm in a bit of a sticky situation, next week this time slot will be fine, the next week I'll be in a new job and have no idea (though I suspect it'll also be fine)

  127. moparisthebest

    so I think it'd be best not to volunteer this time :/

  128. jonas’


  129. jonas’

    I'm also +1 for daniel as chair and I'm happy to help the transition there, just poke me if you need anything.

  130. Ge0rG

    +1 for daniel

  131. larma

    +1 for Daniel

  132. moparisthebest

    I think I already did but +1 for daniel from me too

  133. jonas’

    thanks :)

  134. jonas’

    daniel, happy chairing. as you're probably not that prepared for this meeting, is it okay if I just go on?

  135. daniel

    Thank you for the trust. And jonas’ feel free to continue

  136. jonas’


  137. jonas’

    4) Board Liaison

  138. jonas’

    one of us is supposed to be liaison with board, being subscribed to their ML and also attend their meetings if possible

  139. jonas’

    I am happy to continue with that task, but I'll also step aside if anyone else wants to.

  140. daniel

    I don't mind either way

  141. jonas’

    then I suggest we just vote on keeping me as board liaison

  142. daniel

    Meaning I can take this over as well. But I'll happily leave this with jonas’

  143. daniel

    +1 for jonas’

  144. larma

    +1 for jonas’

  145. moparisthebest

    +1 jonas’

  146. Ge0rG

    +1 for jonas’

  147. jonas’


  148. jonas’

    thanks for that trust :)

  149. jonas’

    5) Meeting Schedule

  150. jonas’

    I like the wednesday 16:00Z following europe-DST slot.

  151. jonas’

    would that work long term for anyone, barring the usual surprises of having to switch jobs or stuff like that?

  152. Ge0rG

    I like that too

  153. moparisthebest

    so not UTC ? what time-zone is that ?

  154. jonas’

    moparisthebest, Europe/Berlin

  155. Ge0rG

    CET / CEST

  156. moparisthebest

    but yes I'm fine with it for now and will update if it becomes a problem

  157. jonas’

    so it would be 17:00 Europe/Berlin actually

  158. jonas’

    I'm +1 to Wednesdays, 17:00 Europe/Berlin until it becomes a problem for anyone.

  159. daniel


  160. Ge0rG

    moparisthebest: it'll jump by one hour for a few weeks in the year because DST change is not synced between Europe and the US

  161. jonas’

    (during DST change weeks we can probably also make spontaneous arrangements)

  162. moparisthebest


  163. larma

    +1 for Wednesday 17h Berlin

  164. moparisthebest

    (that's why I asked for specific timezone, I'll put it in my calendar like that and it *should* do the right thing)

  165. larma

    (normally I'm not on trains at this time)

  166. jonas’

    yep, splendid idea

  167. jonas’

    alright, ten we've got that settled

  168. jonas’

    alright, then we've got that settled

  169. jonas’

    6) AOB

  170. jonas’

    6a) Permissions & List Memberships

  171. jonas’

    I'll poke iteam to get the affiliations of this room sorted out

  172. jonas’

    In additino, I just sent an email via the council@ mailing list, please check if it arrives and if it doesn't or there are problems, please poke iteam about it

  173. jonas’

    (but don't worry if it isn't there *right now*, for some reason the list server hates me and delays my mail for 30min sometimes)

  174. jonas’

    6b) Pending Last Calls etc.

  175. jonas’

    I'll poke the editor to take a look at that. Also there's a Last Call queued which I'll hope to start before the next meeting for us to vote on soon-ish.

  176. jonas’

    Any other AOB?

  177. moparisthebest

    not from me

  178. Ge0rG

    none here. Let's have another productive Council term!

  179. jonas’


  180. jonas’

    then here's to that

  181. jonas’

    7) Ite Meeting Est

  182. jonas’

    thanks everyone :)

  183. daniel

    thanks jonas’

  184. Ge0rG

    thanks jonas’

  185. moparisthebest

    yep thanks much

  186. larma


  187. jonas’

    daniel, you might want to poke dwd about getting another spreadsheet of doom edition :)

  188. jonas’

    it is very helpful

  189. jonas’

    I have no clue about google docs

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  192. jonas’

    and there we go, permissions fixed :) thanks MattJ

  193. moparisthebest

    email message arrived

  194. jonas’


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  199. Kev

    FWIW, the Board liason was Council Chair when it was introduced, rather than an arbitrary person, but I doubt anyone really cares.

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