Ge0rGIt looks like I'll most probably be in a driver's seat today at meeting time
larmaAnd because we live in the 21st century, that means you'll have your hands free due to self-driving cars?
Ge0rGeven if that was the case, which it isn't (my car only has a lane assist that will shutdown after 10s of hands-free), I'd be legally required to not get distracted by my phone.
larmaI wasn't being serious 😉
Ge0rGSorry!
pep.You'll be in a driver's seat, but will it be in a car?
larmaYou mean, train drivers tend to get distracted by their phones all the time?
pep.I mean he could have a driver's seat in his garage for all we know and using that as an excuse
larmaEven if the driver's seat is in a car, he might not be the driver of that car. The seat could be in the car's back row 😉
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Ge0rGOr it could be _the_ driver's seat of that car, fully functioning, but the car isn't moving. You can't know
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larmaI guess we have to trust you with this 😉
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moparisthebestlarma, thanks for the feedback, updated to:
> host-meta files MUST be fetched only over HTTPS, and MUST only use connection URLs starting with 'https://' or 'wss://'. This provides secure delegation, meaning you SHOULD send SNI matching the host of the URL from the connection URL and validate that the certificate is valid for that host *or* the XMPP domain.
larmamoparisthebest, yes, I like it this way 🙂
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jonas’.
danielIt's time
larma👋️
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daniel1) Roll call
moparisthebesthello
danielI guess Ge0rG is in fact in a car
daniel2) Agenda Bashing
moparisthebestI'd like to vote on my updated PRs from last week please
danielmoparisthebest modified the two PRs. we are going to vote on that
daniel3) Editors update
danielnone
daniel4) Items for voting
daniela) XEP-0115: mention the pre-image attacks in the XEP
https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1168
daniela) Everyone on XEP-0045 Remove more mentions of GC 1.0
daniel+1
moparisthebest+1
jonas’+1
larma+1
danielb) Daniel on obsoleting three XEPs
daniel+1 to all three
danielc) Jonas on obsoleting XEP-0038
danieland jonas’ on the new proto xep from last week
danieloh and moparisthebest on the new proto xep as well?
danielthat's not in my notes but the spreadsheet don’t lie
jonas’yeah, +1 on '38
moparisthebesthttps://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/muc-affiliations-versioning.html right ?
larmayes
danielthat's the one
jonas’worth exploring in experimental I suppose
danielit this a +1?
moparisthebest+1 , still unsure about namespaced attributes but that's what experimental is for
jonas’yes, that's a +1
danielok. moving on
daniel6) Council Meetings via A/V
danielcontinuation of last weeks aob
moparisthebestwouldn't want to every week, but less frequently would be fine with me
danieli feel like jonas’ maybe wanted to defend the idea a bit more?
jonas’maybe
jonas’so I think that a regular council high-bandwidth call would be a nice thing to have
moparisthebest(I certainly could be convinced otherwise, I wouldn't be the only blocker for instance if everyone else wanted to)
jonas’I understand that that's not everyone's cup of tea, and I also hear the concerns about the meetings being as transparent as possible
jonas’I also agree that having this on every meeting is probably going to be problematic
jonas’Ge0rG was the strongest oppoent, I don't think it makes much sense to discuss this without him present
danielyes I agree
danielmoving on then
daniel7) Date of Next
moparisthebest+1w wfm
danieli'm actually on vacation next week. jonas’ could you take over chair for that week?
jonas’daniel, I can, can you send me a reminder?
larmaI'm also traveling next week, but might still be able to make it.
jonas’+1w wfm otherwise
danielI can send the agenda and mention that again in the agenda? (because i'm actually only leaving wednesday so sending the agenda should be fine)
jonas’thanks, that would work
danielawesome
daniel8) AOB
moparisthebestnot here
jonas’me neiher
larmanope
daniel9) Close
danielthank you everyone
larmaThanks 🙂
moparisthebestthanks all, and thanks Sam for updating those security considerations :)
moparisthebestoutside of the meeting I'd like to get a feel for what you all think about adding more things to host-meta XRD similar to XEP-0156, should that go in 156 or be a new protoxep ?
moparisthebestif it changes your opinion, I'd also like to change the business rules, I'll be adding records in the XRD that have SRV info in them, so the "only grab this after you try SRV" will be changed to "you can grab this *instead* of doing SRV"
moparisthebestso roughly adding this type of info into the host-meta XML document https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/hacx.html#example-1