It looks like I'll most probably be in a driver's seat today at meeting time
larma
And because we live in the 21st century, that means you'll have your hands free due to self-driving cars?
Ge0rG
even if that was the case, which it isn't (my car only has a lane assist that will shutdown after 10s of hands-free), I'd be legally required to not get distracted by my phone.
larma
I wasn't being serious 😉
Ge0rG
Sorry!
pep.
You'll be in a driver's seat, but will it be in a car?
larma
You mean, train drivers tend to get distracted by their phones all the time?
pep.
I mean he could have a driver's seat in his garage for all we know and using that as an excuse
larma
Even if the driver's seat is in a car, he might not be the driver of that car. The seat could be in the car's back row 😉
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Or it could be _the_ driver's seat of that car, fully functioning, but the car isn't moving. You can't know
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I guess we have to trust you with this 😉
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moparisthebest
larma, thanks for the feedback, updated to:
> host-meta files MUST be fetched only over HTTPS, and MUST only use connection URLs starting with 'https://' or 'wss://'. This provides secure delegation, meaning you SHOULD send SNI matching the host of the URL from the connection URL and validate that the certificate is valid for that host *or* the XMPP domain.
larma
moparisthebest, yes, I like it this way 🙂
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daniel
It's time
larma
👋️
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daniel
1) Roll call
moparisthebest
hello
daniel
I guess Ge0rG is in fact in a car
daniel
2) Agenda Bashing
moparisthebest
I'd like to vote on my updated PRs from last week please
daniel
moparisthebest modified the two PRs. we are going to vote on that
daniel
3) Editors update
daniel
none
daniel
4) Items for voting
daniel
a) XEP-0115: mention the pre-image attacks in the XEP
https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1168
daniel
+1
moparisthebest
+1
jonas’
+1
larma
+1
daniel
Thank you
Sam
Thanks all.
daniel
b) The modified PR 1158
daniel
That's the one removing DNS from 156
moparisthebest
https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1158 +1
daniel
+1
larma
+1
jonas’
+1
daniel
c) https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1159
moparisthebest
+1
daniel
+1
larma
+1
daniel
jonas’, ?
jonas’
+1
daniel
5) Pending votes
daniel
a) Everyone on XEP-0045 Remove more mentions of GC 1.0
daniel
+1
moparisthebest
+1
jonas’
+1
larma
+1
daniel
b) Daniel on obsoleting three XEPs
daniel
+1 to all three
daniel
c) Jonas on obsoleting XEP-0038
daniel
and jonas’ on the new proto xep from last week
daniel
oh and moparisthebest on the new proto xep as well?
daniel
that's not in my notes but the spreadsheet don’t lie
jonas’
yeah, +1 on '38
moparisthebest
https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/muc-affiliations-versioning.html right ?
larma
yes
daniel
that's the one
jonas’
worth exploring in experimental I suppose
daniel
it this a +1?
moparisthebest
+1 , still unsure about namespaced attributes but that's what experimental is for
jonas’
yes, that's a +1
daniel
ok. moving on
daniel
6) Council Meetings via A/V
daniel
continuation of last weeks aob
moparisthebest
wouldn't want to every week, but less frequently would be fine with me
daniel
i feel like jonas’ maybe wanted to defend the idea a bit more?
jonas’
maybe
jonas’
so I think that a regular council high-bandwidth call would be a nice thing to have
moparisthebest
(I certainly could be convinced otherwise, I wouldn't be the only blocker for instance if everyone else wanted to)
jonas’
I understand that that's not everyone's cup of tea, and I also hear the concerns about the meetings being as transparent as possible
jonas’
I also agree that having this on every meeting is probably going to be problematic
jonas’
Ge0rG was the strongest oppoent, I don't think it makes much sense to discuss this without him present
daniel
yes I agree
daniel
moving on then
daniel
7) Date of Next
moparisthebest
+1w wfm
daniel
i'm actually on vacation next week. jonas’ could you take over chair for that week?
jonas’
daniel, I can, can you send me a reminder?
larma
I'm also traveling next week, but might still be able to make it.
jonas’
+1w wfm otherwise
daniel
I can send the agenda and mention that again in the agenda? (because i'm actually only leaving wednesday so sending the agenda should be fine)
jonas’
thanks, that would work
daniel
awesome
daniel
8) AOB
moparisthebest
not here
jonas’
me neiher
larma
nope
daniel
9) Close
daniel
thank you everyone
larma
Thanks 🙂
moparisthebest
thanks all, and thanks Sam for updating those security considerations :)
moparisthebest
outside of the meeting I'd like to get a feel for what you all think about adding more things to host-meta XRD similar to XEP-0156, should that go in 156 or be a new protoxep ?
moparisthebest
if it changes your opinion, I'd also like to change the business rules, I'll be adding records in the XRD that have SRV info in them, so the "only grab this after you try SRV" will be changed to "you can grab this *instead* of doing SRV"
moparisthebest
so roughly adding this type of info into the host-meta XML document https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/hacx.html#example-1