XMPP Council - 2022-02-23

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  48. Ge0rG It looks like I'll most probably be in a driver's seat today at meeting time
  49. larma And because we live in the 21st century, that means you'll have your hands free due to self-driving cars?
  50. Ge0rG even if that was the case, which it isn't (my car only has a lane assist that will shutdown after 10s of hands-free), I'd be legally required to not get distracted by my phone.
  51. larma I wasn't being serious 😉
  52. Ge0rG Sorry!
  53. pep. You'll be in a driver's seat, but will it be in a car?
  54. larma You mean, train drivers tend to get distracted by their phones all the time?
  55. pep. I mean he could have a driver's seat in his garage for all we know and using that as an excuse
  56. larma Even if the driver's seat is in a car, he might not be the driver of that car. The seat could be in the car's back row 😉
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  58. Ge0rG Or it could be _the_ driver's seat of that car, fully functioning, but the car isn't moving. You can't know
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  60. larma I guess we have to trust you with this 😉
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  81. moparisthebest larma, thanks for the feedback, updated to: > host-meta files MUST be fetched only over HTTPS, and MUST only use connection URLs starting with 'https://' or 'wss://'. This provides secure delegation, meaning you SHOULD send SNI matching the host of the URL from the connection URL and validate that the certificate is valid for that host *or* the XMPP domain.
  82. larma moparisthebest, yes, I like it this way 🙂
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  84. moparisthebest 👍
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  90. jonas’ .
  91. daniel It's time
  92. larma 👋️
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  94. daniel 1) Roll call
  95. moparisthebest hello
  96. daniel I guess Ge0rG is in fact in a car
  97. daniel 2) Agenda Bashing
  98. moparisthebest I'd like to vote on my updated PRs from last week please
  99. daniel moparisthebest modified the two PRs. we are going to vote on that
  100. daniel 3) Editors update
  101. daniel none
  102. daniel 4) Items for voting
  103. daniel a) XEP-0115: mention the pre-image attacks in the XEP https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1168
  104. daniel +1
  105. moparisthebest +1
  106. jonas’ +1
  107. larma +1
  108. daniel Thank you
  109. Sam Thanks all.
  110. daniel b) The modified PR 1158
  111. daniel That's the one removing DNS from 156
  112. moparisthebest https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1158 +1
  113. daniel +1
  114. larma +1
  115. jonas’ +1
  116. daniel c) https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/1159
  117. moparisthebest +1
  118. daniel +1
  119. larma +1
  120. daniel jonas’, ?
  121. jonas’ +1
  122. daniel 5) Pending votes
  123. daniel a) Everyone on XEP-0045 Remove more mentions of GC 1.0
  124. daniel +1
  125. moparisthebest +1
  126. jonas’ +1
  127. larma +1
  128. daniel b) Daniel on obsoleting three XEPs
  129. daniel +1 to all three
  130. daniel c) Jonas on obsoleting XEP-0038
  131. daniel and jonas’ on the new proto xep from last week
  132. daniel oh and moparisthebest on the new proto xep as well?
  133. daniel that's not in my notes but the spreadsheet don’t lie
  134. jonas’ yeah, +1 on '38
  135. moparisthebest https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/muc-affiliations-versioning.html right ?
  136. larma yes
  137. daniel that's the one
  138. jonas’ worth exploring in experimental I suppose
  139. daniel it this a +1?
  140. moparisthebest +1 , still unsure about namespaced attributes but that's what experimental is for
  141. jonas’ yes, that's a +1
  142. daniel ok. moving on
  143. daniel 6) Council Meetings via A/V
  144. daniel continuation of last weeks aob
  145. moparisthebest wouldn't want to every week, but less frequently would be fine with me
  146. daniel i feel like jonas’ maybe wanted to defend the idea a bit more?
  147. jonas’ maybe
  148. jonas’ so I think that a regular council high-bandwidth call would be a nice thing to have
  149. moparisthebest (I certainly could be convinced otherwise, I wouldn't be the only blocker for instance if everyone else wanted to)
  150. jonas’ I understand that that's not everyone's cup of tea, and I also hear the concerns about the meetings being as transparent as possible
  151. jonas’ I also agree that having this on every meeting is probably going to be problematic
  152. jonas’ Ge0rG was the strongest oppoent, I don't think it makes much sense to discuss this without him present
  153. daniel yes I agree
  154. daniel moving on then
  155. daniel 7) Date of Next
  156. moparisthebest +1w wfm
  157. daniel i'm actually on vacation next week. jonas’ could you take over chair for that week?
  158. jonas’ daniel, I can, can you send me a reminder?
  159. larma I'm also traveling next week, but might still be able to make it.
  160. jonas’ +1w wfm otherwise
  161. daniel I can send the agenda and mention that again in the agenda? (because i'm actually only leaving wednesday so sending the agenda should be fine)
  162. jonas’ thanks, that would work
  163. daniel awesome
  164. daniel 8) AOB
  165. moparisthebest not here
  166. jonas’ me neiher
  167. larma nope
  168. daniel 9) Close
  169. daniel thank you everyone
  170. larma Thanks 🙂
  171. moparisthebest thanks all, and thanks Sam for updating those security considerations :)
  172. moparisthebest outside of the meeting I'd like to get a feel for what you all think about adding more things to host-meta XRD similar to XEP-0156, should that go in 156 or be a new protoxep ?
  173. moparisthebest if it changes your opinion, I'd also like to change the business rules, I'll be adding records in the XRD that have SRV info in them, so the "only grab this after you try SRV" will be changed to "you can grab this *instead* of doing SRV"
  174. moparisthebest so roughly adding this type of info into the host-meta XML document https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/hacx.html#example-1
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